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Posted by PHVM_BR
 - February 29, 2024, 16:35:52

This is a complete lie. The tests show the 8945HS clearly. that it practically does not drop in speed at 45W.

And the Ultra 9 185H falls down catastrophically.
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Phoenix/Hawk Point are more efficient below 60W.

At 60/65W they are equal and above that Meteor Lake surpasses it.

Your comment was based on 60W.
Posted by NikoB
 - February 29, 2024, 13:52:30
Quote from: PHVM_BR on February 28, 2024, 20:23:41This Ultra 7 155H at 60W has similar (or better) performance to the Ryzen 9 8945HS working at 65W on the Zephyrus G14.
This is a complete lie. The tests show the 8945HS clearly. that it practically does not drop in speed at 45W.

And the Ultra 9 185H falls down catastrophically.

Intel and laptop manufacturers with them remained cheaters and scammers for consumption.

With AMD SoCs they deliberately increases consumption in laptops in order to, in collusion with Intel, hide the unsightly fact that AMD is significantly more energy efficient than even MeteorLake.

Unfortunately, most readers simply do not see this, like many other unsightly facts.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - February 28, 2024, 22:01:06
Quote from: RobinLight on February 28, 2024, 18:54:44Schenker hat ja schon ewig das Layout mit den großen Cursortasten, da hätte Herr Jasiek doch endlich mal zugreifen können.

Au man, nur weil ich Teilaspekte lobe, heißt das nicht, dass alles gut wäre!
Posted by PHVM_BR
 - February 28, 2024, 20:23:41
Quote from: NikoB on February 28, 2024, 19:04:28But Zen4+ would clearly be better here

This Ultra 7 155H at 60W has similar (or better) performance to the Ryzen 9 8945HS working at 65W on the Zephyrus G14.
Posted by NikoB
 - February 28, 2024, 19:04:28
Again, Huawei is saving where it is not necessary or they simply do not have access to purchase fast LPDDR5 7500 memory. Compare with competitors. Although the difference in real speed is not so great (the efficiency of the 7500 even with the Ultra 9 185H is very low), but the memory latency is simply monstrous 140ns+ is no good, especially for the 5600.

Is there a second M.2 2242 port visible inside, next to the wired Wi-Fi? Why is it not listed by the author in the upgrade options? Although, of course, finding a decent 2242 is almost impossible.

The screen can be called sane, if not for the very low contrast of 1000:1. But again the question is - does Huawei now have access to more contrasting panels in bulk...
Didn't reach 95% AdobeRGB.

The keyboard is no good again - the numpad is completely damaged. It's better if the keys on it are slightly narrowed in width, but the classic numpad and the arrow block shifted downwards are like on Legion. There is room there for 16".

The processor, as expected, behaves better at 60W than competitors at a lower PL1, but this immediately leads to increased noise. Although of course 60W, it's still not 100+ as before. But Zen4+ would clearly be better here. As usual, AMD processors are either not yet produced in mass quantities, or AMD is deliberately holding them back for the sake of sales of old series.

The ports are poorly located - at least one USB-a is needed on the right. You can even have a hidden usb 2.0 port for a mouse transmitter, like in some Lenovo models. One USB-c/TB should be in the back, not on the side.

Again, in such a large case and a lot of empty space at the back and sides, not installing RJ45 at 5Gbps (at least the old 2.5) is pure redneck. This is always necessary for a stable network with minimal pings. And this is against the backdrop of shame with the morally outdated anachronism AX201 soldered 4 (!!!) years ago! Why didn't they solder the cheap BE200?! It retails for $23-25! And here you don't even need the full version, because... there is CNVi 3.0+.

The HDMI 2.0 port, which is morally outdated by 8(!) years, instead of the built-in HDMI 2.1/FRL6 in MeteorLake, is already an INTENTIONAL redneck from Huawei marketers; the engineers would not have done that.

In general, they could also solder DP2.0+/UHBR20. Moreover, they also jammed the second TB4 port...

And tell me, what's stopping them all from adding a second audio port on the right, symmetrically to the first? It's convenient for both right-handers and left-handers and you can quickly build a quad analog system with 4 speakers around it from literally anything.

Looking at this insanity in components and wiring of strange parts, one gets the impression that sanctions are still putting pressure on Huawei and their ability to select the necessary components is rapidly decreasing. Well, or this is pure redneck with cheap components.

In general, another strange Frankenstein from Huawei that is unlikely to be in demand both among gamers (the video card is morally outdated for the latest 2.5k games) and among those who take a universal laptop with maximum upgrade capabilities and a comfortable full-fledged keyboard with a full classic numpad.

Since you installed a cheap, outdated LPDDR5 5600, put it in the slots, and don't solder it.

It all depends on the price for someone to be interested in such a solution, but compared to the Legion lines, it still does not stand up to any criticism. Only if the price is significantly lower. Light weight is useless, without a power supply it still won't work for a long time, and at home silence with heavier radiators and large coolers is more important.

Huawei, like Lenovo, lacks an 18" line for the home - a workhorse without discrete data, but with a bunch of conveniently located latest ports, expansion slots inside (well, something like the Acer Aspire 5 2023 - 2xM.2 2280/2 x RAM slot), high-quality high-contrast IPS (1500:1+) 4k@120Hz 16:10 and a full keyboard with a full classic number pad, with good, elastic tactile feedback.And of course, on the latest chips from AMD.

Huawei could probably compete with the largest brands in the future, but its days are numbered in terms of access to Western components.
Posted by RobinLight
 - February 28, 2024, 18:54:44
Das Tastatur Layout ist doch, bis auf andere Doppelbelegungen, dasselbe wie bei Schenker. Kann es sein, dass da die gleiche Basis verwendet wird?

Schenker hat ja schon ewig das Layout mit den großen Cursortasten, da hätte Herr Jasiek doch endlich mal zugreifen können.

Mir ist das keyboard viel zu beengt, da hätte man lieber auf das Numpad verzichten sollen und dafür keine Doppelbelegungen eingebaut und bspw. die Returntaste nicht so fummelig klein gemacht.
Posted by JUAN_pcbox
 - February 28, 2024, 18:48:05
DEFINITIV NEIN.
Als WLAN-Modul kommt das bekannte AX201-Modul von Intel zum Einsatz, wobei das MagicBook Pro weder Wi-Fi 6E noch Wi-Fi 7 unterstützt.
ABSOLUT NEIN, da es nur HDMI 2.0 anstelle von 2.1 hat, was der doppelten Übertragung entspricht.
ABSOLUT NEIN, da es kein sRGB-Profil für Designer und Content-Ersteller gibt.
ABSOLUT NICHT
Wer diesen Laptop kauft, verschwendet Geld.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - February 28, 2024, 18:16:55
Honor macht zumindest Manches richtig:

Normalgroße Pfeil- und Ziffertasten.

IPS, 524 nits, kein PWM, kurze Reaktionszeiten, im Freien benutzbar.
Posted by Redaktion
 - February 28, 2024, 17:08:23
Das MagicBook Pro 16 war bisher als günstiger Multimedia-Rechner bekannt, doch mit der neuen 2024er-Version bringt Honor einen leistungsstarken Multimedia/Gaming-Laptop auf den Markt, der mit einem 165-Hz IPS-Panel sowie Features wie Advanced Optimus auftrumpft. Im Test überzeugt der Rechner vor allem mit einer guten Kühlung.

https://www.notebookcheck.com/Honor-MagicBook-Pro-16-2024-Multimedia-Laptop-165-Hz-IPS-Panel-und-RTX-4060.803277.0.html