Quote from: Dulag on December 15, 2023, 14:29:09The giga casting cannot be welded back together (and remain safe).If the frame of an automobile is bent it is automatically totalled. No, body shops do NOT straighten frames. It is called a BODY shop, not a frame shop. Straightening a frame should be considered fraud unless that vehicle gets a salvaged title. You clearly do not own a vehicle or a drivers license for that matter. Stick to public transportation clown.
When broken, it must be replaced.
When "replacing" the gigacasting, the body repair tech must disassemble everything from the gigacasting frame. The labor to do so would be more than the cyber truck's residual value.
Most responses are incorrect. Current design frames can be bent back and most reputable body repair shops have the equipment to do so with reasonable labor costs. No, current cars are not just "totaled" from a bent frame.
The vitriol towards the author over the topic demonstrates the upcoming culture war over the cybertruck. Stay tuned for more foaming-at-the-mouth defense of it, regardless of facts.
Quote from: Nick134566 on December 15, 2023, 21:46:45Quote from: Dulag on December 15, 2023, 14:29:09The giga casting cannot be welded back together (and remain safe).
When broken, it must be replaced.
When "replacing" the gigacasting, the body repair tech must disassemble everything from the gigacasting frame. The labor to do so would be more than the cyber truck's residual value.
Most responses are incorrect. Current design frames can be bent back and most reputable body repair shops have the equipment to do so with reasonable labor costs. No, current cars are not just "totaled" from a bent frame.
The vitriol towards the author over the topic demonstrates the upcoming culture war over the cybertruck. Stay tuned for more foaming-at-the-mouth defense of it, regardless of facts.
You are full of s***. My car got side swiped and the only damage was to the rear driver side door and it set off the airbags. My car was considered totalled. You think frame repair is not costly? The insurance company called mine totalled and you are complaining about a front end collision at 30-50 mph. Secondly that would be a huge black mark on the car if it has frame damage. The insurance company in ALL situations is going to call a car totaled that has enough damage to cause frame damage especially it you completely smashed in the front end. Who repairs a car after they were in a serious enough accident to smash in the front end? ANY car in that type of accident would be considered totalled by all insurance companies. What a stupid thing to complain about. Guess what, all totalled cars are more expensive to repair than their initial cost. That's why insurance companies just pay you out rather than repair. You also said on the initial investment it is cheaper to construct it that way. So your article should read Tesla's gigcasting is a great cost savings.
The gigacasting is a part that the consumer would NEVER (or EXTREMELY RARE situations) have to replace. And if it did insurance would cover it. It is only destroyed when the car would also be considered totalled. What a stupid article. Find a new job or at least a different topic because you are incompetent at this one.
Quote from: John doe on December 15, 2023, 21:09:31We currently have 3 Tesla Model S plaids in our shop with minimal damage to the aluminum casting but is required to be replaced to properly fix. All 3 might end up totaling because of it. We torn down one to basically the shell and insurance says they will probably total it and since the same insurance company has one of the other plaids, they will total that one also without tearing it down first.
Quote from: Dulag on December 15, 2023, 14:29:09The giga casting cannot be welded back together (and remain safe).
When broken, it must be replaced.
When "replacing" the gigacasting, the body repair tech must disassemble everything from the gigacasting frame. The labor to do so would be more than the cyber truck's residual value.
Most responses are incorrect. Current design frames can be bent back and most reputable body repair shops have the equipment to do so with reasonable labor costs. No, current cars are not just "totaled" from a bent frame.
The vitriol towards the author over the topic demonstrates the upcoming culture war over the cybertruck. Stay tuned for more foaming-at-the-mouth defense of it, regardless of facts.
Quote from: JGarbo on December 15, 2023, 05:17:22The writer jumps the gun. True, Teslas are among the safest cars in US. True, a frontal collison impact will deform/destroy the gigacasting unit, but where is his "most expensive" pricing? The battery is usually the most expensive part of an EV. The gigacasting is one piece of Al alloy produced in seconds, replacing dozens of previous, more expensive steel parts that would also be replaced, not repaired. BMW tried this price trickery to defend their complex steel front end subframes' crash resistance and cost, and failed. More details needed. Expected better better from this site.