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Posted by NikoB
 - November 08, 2023, 14:27:31
Quote from: sly123 on November 07, 2023, 21:55:58Ill upgrade to 48gigs (yes that's possible....)
And you will get slow single-channel memory, because... Windows randomly interferes with memory segments via ASLR. You do a test of read/write/copy speed in RAM in the same AIDA64 and you always get different results with a difference of up to 2 times. At the same time, in Slim, you can install up to 256GB in the future (there are currently no modules for 64 and 128, but they will be) of RAM in fast dual-channel mode. And in this case, tests in AIDA64, like performance in any software, will be consistently high. With your 48 (16+32, or 16+64 or 16+128) you will only have fast 16+16, and everything higher will work in single-channel mode. Most technically illiterate buyers don't even know about it.

Quote from: sly123 on November 07, 2023, 21:55:583.2K display
Which still produces a not entirely clear picture in 4k and fhd mode because it cannot provide an integer change in resolution to 4k and fhd at the pixel level, like 2.5k screens.

Only 4k screens are completely universal and 100% compatible at the pixel level with 4к/fhd video.

Why is Lenovo messing around with screens when 4K screens have been on sale for a long time? Stupid marketing again.

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2023 is a completely disastrous year for the laptop market - there are no good universal models for the home. Absolutely not.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - November 07, 2023, 23:28:05
Also you have discovered that currently mid to high notebooka are not worth buying. (And low end only if good enough for you.)
Posted by sly123
 - November 07, 2023, 21:55:58
Quote from: NikoB on November 06, 2023, 16:26:16...

For such a price and for such hardware with such shortcomings, the buyer has the right to expect a 32GB/4TB SSD or 64GB/2TB SSD out of the box, or as in this variant in review but with a 3-year On-Site warranty.

Possible for purchase at a price of around $1100-1250 for this config from review, no more, because...cpu and dgpu performance is too low for 2023 and there are many shortcomings in the rest.


Wow. So much frustration inyour post.
Either you are jealous of Lenovo or just trolling.

I've searched a notebook which is light
and has a nice display.
The 5th series is fat and heavy but calls itself slim. What's the point?
I could buy a legion 7 with 7840HS/16g/512ssd/3.2K display for only 1400€. Ill upgrade to 48gigs (yes that's possible....) and add a 2tb ssd.

Tell me even one notebook which can hardly reach that price. I've searched day and days. There is nothing close to it. All are like 2000€ or trash with trash plastics and fat.
Posted by Ab
 - November 07, 2023, 20:12:09
Wie immer dumm und dümmer. Das leiseste Gerät im Testfeld (49db lach) und wird dann balanced getestet und alle anderen im Leistungsprofil. Hut ab
Posted by NikoB
 - November 07, 2023, 17:58:22
I apologize to the author, because... due to inattention, I didn't notice that we were talking about the 7th series, and not about the 5th.

But in general, the 5th series is much better - it has 2 memory slots (up to 256GB vs only 32GB for Slim 7 in fast dual channel mode), RJ45 for stable and fast connection and usb-c ports officially, amazingly enough, output a higher resolution than Slim7.

Is it worth limiting yourself to 28-29GB of RAM for the next 3-5 years and suffering without an RJ45 connector for the sake of the metal lower part of the case and RGB backlighting of each button (if they sell it to you)?

Lenovo's 2021, 2022 (even more absurd), and 2023 Slim 7 series are completely idiotic and extremely unpopular with buyers for obvious reasons.
Posted by rui almeida
 - November 07, 2023, 11:14:03
A pity that reviewer didn't introduced at test tables, data from Intel sister model Legion Slim 7 16IRH8.
Probably another article will arrive soon "Which model to choose: Slim 7 16IRH8 (Intel) or Legion Slim 7 16APH8 (AMD)?. Hope this time, missing interior photos of notebook be introduced.
Posted by JOhnH45
 - November 06, 2023, 23:20:20
@Florian Glaser: Wäre es möglich Blickwinkelbilder aus einem steileren Winkel nachzureichen?
Aus derart flachen Winkeln lässt sich das für mich leider nicht ausreichend beurteilen und das Blickwinkelverhalten ist mir besonders wichtig.
Posted by NikoB
 - November 06, 2023, 16:26:16
The author was lazy and did not even open the case and did NOT even read the psref for the series - psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Legion_Slim_7_16APH8 which clearly states that there are 2 ddr5 slots and there cannot be any soldered memory.

The price is wildly overpriced. We sell these for 500-600 euros cheaper and still there is no demand from buyers.

Why there is no demand - obviously - the laptop is not a "gaming" laptop - it can no longer handle the 2022/2023 releases even in High fhd settings, which is clearly visible from the review, not to mention the native resolution of 2.5k, where fps drops to shameful levels. And the notorious DLSS, which some "smart guys" constantly point out, does not work in all games. Moreover, this is a crutch - designed to hide the unsightly fact for incompetent ordinary buyers - that 4060/4070 is NOT enough for modern games, especially 2023 releases in native 2.5k - where, to the shame of NVidia, with a monster tdp they cannot even pull out 60fps with high-quality settings graphics for games 2023. Don't forget that games already require more than 8GB of VRAM! The minimum volume for today is 16GB VRAM, not poor 8GB.

The screen, as usual, is mediocre(for this price level) 100% sRGB without DCI-P3 95%+ and of course not compatible with HDR content, even with the cheapest HDR600 option (HDR400 is a pure deception and a fake for suckers). 4k@120Hz it would be much better for both work and entertainment. Always clear fonts and always perfect looking graphics, but not with this 2.5k screen, which will always be cloudy picture in 4k and fhd resolution on the same YouTube and in another video 4k/fhd content.

The noise is monstrous and the overheating is so strong that the keyboard area heats up to 50C. This means that this series CANNOT be used with the screen cover closed in games - the screen panel can quickly fail, because its critical temperature is 50C.

Otherwise, nothing special - Lenovo has produced a lot of technically poor series (for example, in this one, due to its own stupid greed, the 2 ports built into the SoC 7840 - USB40 are not included) and is trying to sell them at completely inflated prices.

Moreover, Lenovo lied in its own psref - at the beginning it writes one thing:
Monitor Support
Supports up to 4 independent displays (native display and 3 external monitors via HDMI® and USB-C®)
[b]• HDMI supports up to 4K@60Hz[/b]
• USB-C supports up to 4K@60Hz

And then the exact opposite below in psref:
[b]1x HDMI 2.1, up to 8K/60Hz[/b]
So where is the truth, Lenovo marketers?

Let me remind you that both the 7840HS and 4060 natively support HDMI 2.1 48Gbps. Which does NOT support 8k@60fps in monitor lossless mode. It possible only with DSC lossy compression. But full version of HDMI 2.1 (48Gbps) supports 4k@165Hz with 30 bit color lossless. But this is not written in psref for all series Lenovo...

From an expert's point of view, Lenovo's psref data looks technically illiterate.

Who wants at least a powerful processor (literally more than 2 times) - it's easier to order a 7945HX+4060 from China for a much lower price. Moreover, this one will be Legion 5 Pro, albeit completely plastic, after Lenovo's downgrade in 2023, compared to the 2021-2022 models. And of course also without USB40/TB4.

For such a price and for such hardware with such shortcomings, the buyer has the right to expect a 32GB/4TB SSD or 64GB/2TB SSD out of the box, or as in this variant in review but with a 3-year On-Site warranty.

Possible for purchase at a price of around $1100-1250 for this config from review, no more, because...cpu and dgpu performance is too low for 2023 and there are many shortcomings in the rest.
Posted by Redaktion
 - November 06, 2023, 10:33:08
Lenovo hat mit dem Legion Slim 7 einen schicken und relativ leichten 16-Zoll-Gamer im Angebot. Erfahren Sie in unserem Test, wie sich die AMD-Variante gegen die Intel-Konkurrenz schlägt.

https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Lenovo-Legion-Slim-7-16-Gaming-Laptop-UEberzeugt-auch-mit-AMD-Ryzen.763537.0.html