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Posted by Rk
 - October 09, 2023, 09:30:13
Quote from: toto1234 on October 07, 2023, 08:43:075h of websurfing for a 16" is "average" ???

Sorry but it is just terrible.
5h from BS benchmark translates to maybe 3 hours in real life.

In my experience, with all the laptop I've had so far, I can divide the number given on notebookcheck by 2.



This isn't a laptop designed to be a good device. This laptop was made to be the lightest 16" out there and just like Gram it will sacrifice thermals, battery capacity or chassis rigidity ;)
Posted by NikoB
 - October 08, 2023, 20:37:28
Pay attention to another interesting fact - how quickly the performance scaling decreases with increasing consumption for the Zen4 Phoenix, if you compare this model and this one from HP (www.notebookcheck.net/HP-EliteBook-845-G10-review-Business-laptop-impresses -with-AMD-Ryzen-7-7840U-and-unbeatable-price.754141.0.html) with exactly the same processor.

Here PL1=18W, HP has 25W, consumption increases by 38-39%, but the increase in sustained multi-threaded performance is already only 23%, although this is quite good for 25W, almost catching up with the 5800H on a much larger PL1 in 2021 laptops.
Posted by NikoB
 - October 07, 2023, 20:33:22
In another idiotic product from Acer with a damaged numpad and 240Hz PWM for AMOLED, readers should be interested in only one thing - the performance of the 7840U at PL1=18W.

And this is a direct competitor to the i7 1355U, right?

So, the HP x360 with 1355U, a review of which appeared here a little earlier, with PL1=30W, is completely inferior to the 7840U with PL1=18, which consumes as much as 40% less and at the same time is more than 50% faster than the 1355U in sustained multi-threaded performance.

Thus, Meteor Lake will not be able to even come close to Zen3 2 from a year ago, not to mention Zen3+ and especially Zen4 in terms of energy efficiency, i.e. performance at 1W.

Intel is a complete failure with the 13th generation...and will not be able to offer us anything in 2024 with Meteor Lake. Not only that, they previously assured that TB5 would be there, but it won't be there according to their presentation slides, opened on September 19th. Just as, to the shame of Intel, MeteorLake will not have a full-fledged DP2.0+ at 80Gbps for real support for 8k monitors. And what's even more shameful is that according to their own presentation, even their stripped-down DP2.1 will be worse than the old DP1.4b at 32Gbps, because Intel's slides indicate a maximum of 2.1 at 20Gbps (if this is not a stupid mistake by Intel staff).

Intel's complete failure is already guaranteed in 2023. Only one thing saves them - their own factories and a sales ratio relative to AMD of more than 5:1...

Meteor Lake should be renamed Turtle Lake.

Posted by toto1234
 - October 07, 2023, 08:43:07
5h of websurfing for a 16" is "average" ???

Sorry but it is just terrible.
5h from BS benchmark translates to maybe 3 hours in real life.

In my experience, with all the laptop I've had so far, I can divide the number given on notebookcheck by 2.
Posted by LL
 - October 06, 2023, 23:00:32
Bizarre review. Is it complete?

Adobe RGB is said to be 100% but there is not information in the text.
No references to USB4 in the text either
 
No touchscreen is also a bizarre requirement to give it a negative point.

No references to LG Gram
Posted by Redaktion
 - October 06, 2023, 20:03:05
The Acer Swift Edge 16 is one of the lightest 16-inch laptops in the market right now with the new Ryzen 7 7840U. There's no doubt that its CPU and 120 Hz OLED display are both impressive, but weaknesses elsewhere on the model shouldn't be ignored.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Swift-Edge-16-Ryzen-7-7840U-laptop-review-Zen-4-CPU-and-3-2K-120-Hz-OLED-boost.756914.0.html