Memory modules need to be purchased in such a way as to get the most out of the memory controller. Overclocking modules are only bad if the system does not support XMP profiles and the standard JEDEC profiles are not protected internally. And besides, there is no fine tuning of memory delays in the BIOS. Usually they are always present in the "engineering" version of the BIOS, but getting there is not an easy task; it's individual for each series.

At least on the AMD SoC there is an option to enter the extended version of the BIOS via a special flash drive, unlike Intel.

And it is AMD controllers that are significantly inferior in performance to their class counterparts from Intel. Therefore, it is on AMD that it is extremely important to speed up memory exchange operations as much as possible. But this is not a simple task of selecting modules and tunning.

Avoid overclocking modules. Choose low latency. If possible, check compability lists at mainboard, CPU and RAM manufacturer webpages.

Which RAM modules would you guys recommend for upgrading to 64GB? I don't want to overpay for them and need the memory for data analysis.

Quote from: NikoB on November 14, 2023, 12:25:37

Quote from: Marcos8 on November 12, 2023, 15:48:41everyday use for the whole family, i.e. watching movies, productivity, and sporadically playing games at low settings.

Forgive my rudeness, but this was an idiotic idea from the start. If this is a home laptop, then why didn't you buy a gaming series, the same Legion 5 Pro or Asus Strix 17.3? With a much more comfortable full-fledged keyboard, a larger and better screen, a much more powerful discrete card and a much more powerful cooling system?

<=14" are usually taken by those who assume that they will leave the house with it quite often. For use only at home, 14" stumps are usually not taken by adequate people.

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Quote from: Marcos8 on November 12, 2023, 15:48:41The weight and dimensions are important because I also use the PC for work so I carry it around.

Quote from: Marcos8 on November 12, 2023, 15:48:41everyday use for the whole family, i.e. watching movies, productivity, and sporadically playing games at low settings.

Forgive my rudeness, but this was an idiotic idea from the start. If this is a home laptop, then why didn't you buy a gaming series, the same Legion 5 Pro or Asus Strix 17.3? With a much more comfortable full-fledged keyboard, a larger and better screen, a much more powerful discrete card and a much more powerful cooling system?

<=14" are usually taken by those who assume that they will leave the house with it quite often. For use only at home, 14" stumps are usually not taken by adequate people.

Can someone who owns the laptop comment on the battery life? Some reviews say 8h light useage while this one says 13h.

I didn't say that the numbers in the review are incorrect but that they don't correspond to the performance of my PC. I have installed the latest drivers and updates, and 2x16 GB of dual channel memory. Obviously I tried with the power supply. I said I bought this PC for everyday use for the whole family, i.e. watching movies, productivity, and sporadically playing games at low settings. The weight and dimensions are important because I also use the PC for work so I carry it around. However, I think I will return it and get a Lenovo Legion slim 5 14".

Quote from: Marcos8 on November 11, 2023, 00:41:15For example in the review of radeon 780m diablo 4 on 1920x1080 with medium details go on 43 fps, while with the same settings I only get 25 fps with fsr2 enabled.

You need to make sure that your versions of drivers, their settings, and system settings match all of this from the author of the review. You must also have dual-channel memory 8+8/16+16 or 32+32. In all other cases, igpu performance will be sharply lower.

If you are sure that all the settings match, 2 identical RAM modules, then only then can you be sure that the numbers in the review are incorrect. They obviously exist here, but you need to make sure that everything matches exactly.

If you are trying to get the specified fps from the battery and you have dual-channel memory, then you apparently do not understand that all tests in review are done only from the power supply.

Why buy a non-gaming laptop for "everyday" games? I don't understand. Well, buy "game@ laptop for this with light weight if weight is so important to you. Why even use small 14" at home and not 17-18"? At home, weight does not matter at all, and you should use the laptop all the time from the power supply - this guarantees 100% performance all time of use. I always use all laptops at home only from PSU almost 100% of the time in maximum performance profile. And no problem.

CPU usage depends on the game or task. E.g., MS flight simulator is said to be CPU-heavy. E.g., frequent repetitions in Go result in exceptional high CPU usage.

I have already a ps5 and a pc with 5600x and asus 3080. I bought this laptop for daily use, for the whole family. I don't intend to use it just to play, but I wanted to see how it went with the games, also given the excellent reviews and benchmarks like this one from notebookcheck. For example in the review of radeon 780m diablo 4 on 1920x1080 with medium details go on 43 fps, while with the same settings I only get 25 fps with fsr2 enabled. Also i noticed that during the game the usage of cpu is very low, 30% about, but maybe this is normal.

Quote from: NikoB on November 10, 2023, 16:50:38.
The problem is not in the processor, processors other than obvious defects cannot be burned for a long time unless you overclock them - they have built-in protection circuits, including automatic throttling based on temperature and consumption.

The problem is in the power harness on the motherboard - this is where the root of all problems lies. How high-quality are the mosfets, how high-quality are the solid-state capacitors on the board, how high-quality are the tracks made and etched - because everywhere there are monstrous currents of tens, and sometimes hundreds of Amps with a crystal voltage of only 1V or less.

It is the quality of the power wiring (number of power phases, quality of components) that distinguishes different motherboards.

This laptop is basically not designed for heavy loads from the start. If the components are not of very high quality (most likely), then it will not last long under intense load.

If you want to play, don't do nonsense. Build a gaming PC at home that will be as quiet as possible, or buy a "gaming" laptop with at least a 2-year warranty. Well, or PS5.

The problem is not in the processor, processors other than obvious defects cannot be burned for a long time unless you overclock them - they have built-in protection circuits, including automatic throttling based on temperature and consumption.

The problem is in the power harness on the motherboard - this is where the root of all problems lies. How high-quality are the mosfets, how high-quality are the solid-state capacitors on the board, how high-quality are the tracks made and etched - because everywhere there are monstrous currents of tens, and sometimes hundreds of Amps with a crystal voltage of only 1V or less.

It is the quality of the power wiring (number of power phases, quality of components) that distinguishes different motherboards.

This laptop is basically not designed for heavy loads from the start. If the components are not of very high quality (most likely), then it will not last long under intense load.

If you want to play, don't do nonsense. Build a gaming PC at home that will be as quiet as possible, or buy a "gaming" laptop with at least a 2-year warranty. Well, or PS5.

Such differs from notebook model to model. Very hot means the notebook is not well designed. 95° is not dangerous for the CPU but can mean two things: a) the notebook is not well designed or b) there is insufficient paste or the like on the CPU. A new notebook should not have such but bad manufacturers sometimes sell such models or individual notebooks. Repasting might solve the issue or not, but it ought not to be the task of the enduser to repaste a new notebook. If you can, undo the purchase! A high temperature can, but need not, shorten the life of a chip. Typically, a chip is endangered for above 105° or 110° so would throttle early. Maybe even at 95°. Anyway, high temperature means higher noise.

Good evening, I just purchased this PC. With the balanced profile and the best performance profile after just 5 minutes of gaming the laptop becomes very hot and the processor reaches 95°. In your opinion is this normal? Could there be any damage in the long run? Furthermore, in any game the fps are very low even with low details; in the various benchmarks the fps are very good.

I haven't seen the reviewed model anywhere for 1049 eur. Is it msrp?
The cheapest what I could find with a good screen starts from around 1300 eur.

Quote from: edram on September 24, 2023, 19:07:07"The fan doesn't kick in at all in everyday use." - spectacular :) Now please define "everyday use".

Everything that's not a full load? It literally says in the same sentence you quoted, again literally immediately after the part which you quoted:

QuoteUnder the Ryzen 7 7840U, the limits are now significantly lower at 30/25 watts, which has an extremely positive effect on fan activity. This doesn't kick in at all in everyday use and under full load it takes around a minute before you even hear the fan.