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Posted by Ajax
 - September 26, 2023, 06:03:46
Quote from: NikoB on September 22, 2023, 21:55:39Children, calm down. Both Intel and AMD (its antitrust pad) are garbage. Both are full of holes and both memory controllers (but AMD are even worse) are incredibly slow. Compared to the 400Gb/s of the Apple M2 Max, they are simply swallowing dust behind them...

People don't need these shameful "3D" caches. Give people the bandwidth of 400GB/s of regular RAM and no L3 cache required.

Processor performance has increased 10 times over 14 years. RAM performance is 3 times higher. There is a lack of RAM bandwidth, at least 3 times.
You do realize that latency and bandwidth are two different concepts? And M2 has extremely high latency.
Posted by NikoB
 - September 22, 2023, 21:55:39
Children, calm down. Both Intel and AMD (its antitrust pad) are garbage. Both are full of holes and both memory controllers (but AMD are even worse) are incredibly slow. Compared to the 400Gb/s of the Apple M2 Max, they are simply swallowing dust behind them...

People don't need these shameful "3D" caches. Give people the bandwidth of 400GB/s of regular RAM and no L3 cache required.

Processor performance has increased 10 times over 14 years. RAM performance is 3 times higher. There is a lack of RAM bandwidth, at least 3 times.
Posted by Hotz
 - September 22, 2023, 13:47:32
Quote from: Unknown on September 22, 2023, 01:02:55Intel Fanboy Detected
AMD Fanboy Detected
Posted by Unknown
 - September 22, 2023, 01:02:55
Quote from: Greg142 on September 21, 2023, 16:33:34AMD cpu's reign in sudden dying along with motherboards in smoke when burn with them. AMD is best for people that like to RMA their hardware often and have lots of various issues like even stutter with fTPM enabled. Intel is always most reliable and GREAT choice, AMD should be avoided at ALL costs by people.
Intel Fanboy Detected
Posted by NikoB
 - September 21, 2023, 19:48:23
These are all insignificant crutches against the backdrop of x86's disgrace regarding RAM bandwidth, which right now even in cheap i3-level chips should be at least 3 times faster.
Posted by Greg142
 - September 21, 2023, 16:33:34
AMD cpu's reign in sudden dying along with motherboards in smoke when burn with them. AMD is best for people that like to RMA their hardware often and have lots of various issues like even stutter with fTPM enabled. Intel is always most reliable and GREAT choice, AMD should be avoided at ALL costs by people.
Posted by kek
 - September 20, 2023, 16:53:07
Its not a full revolution as Ryzen, but it's good to see Intel moving somewhere, instead of just refreshing the same stuff.

I'm interested on seeing the benefits of Foveros.
Posted by Redaktion
 - September 20, 2023, 15:28:51
Panther Lake is expected to enter production in Q1 2024, and Lunar Lake will most likely launch in Q4 2024 as the successor of Meteor Lake, while Arrow Lake will bring the Core Ultra series to desktops with the new LGA-1851 socket. Future models coming after Meteor Lake should also integrate Intel's own take on 3D-stacked cache to better compete with AMD's X3D processors that currently reign supreme when it comes to gaming.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-to-integrate-3D-stacked-cache-in-upcoming-CPUs-demos-AI-on-Lunar-Lake-laptops-and-confirms-Panther-Lake-for-2025.753353.0.html