Quote from: NikoB on December 21, 2023, 18:35:53Since I have extensive experience on forums for more than 25 years

Wow, it's so sad, man.

I'm taking my words about competitive gaming being bad back, this is worse.

You haven't answered to this, NikoBipolar, how could an "expert" of this caliber buy a bad laptop.

Quote from: A on December 21, 2023, 14:31:55NikoB, isn't it kinda embarrassing to admit you've bought such a bad laptop after you've spent so much effort trying to convince everyone you know a thing or two about them in this forum.

Was it the one with 800:1 screen and 60% sRGB? ) And "5 years" from 2018 is 2023, so most of your silly opuses about "shameful screens" here you've written using that? )

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 21, 2023, 16:35:34It is a bad idea to discourage people from reporting actually experienced problems. We can all profit from such reports.

As usual, a couple of hired clowns turn the forum into a circus, while they themselves are completely useless and unnecessary people on the forum. Since I have extensive experience on forums for more than 25 years, I know very well that such clowns usually appear on assignment to try to discredit the most experienced and intelligent participants so that the ordinary crowd (prone to populism) will accept their nonsense on faith. The system as a whole works. But I don't write for stupid people, I write for smart people. I don't really care if it helps the majority. Although if someone, still undecided in his opinion, with the rudiments of critical thinking, tries to start digging on a given topic, my work is generally done.

So let the dogs bark...the caravan moves on.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on December 21, 2023, 16:35:34It is a bad idea to discourage people from reporting actually experienced problems. We can all profit from such reports.

Yeah, definitely will save someone from buying 2018 laptop in 2023 after he reads about it in comments to review of completely unrelated model.

Quote from: NikoB on December 21, 2023, 13:37:03Consider also the unfortunate fact that the Alienware series was also completely destroyed a few years ago when they changed the keyboard there from a gorgeous one to the same crap as in the G series.

Do you say the same about Alienware's mechanical keyboards (so far only available with US layout)?

Quote from: A on December 21, 2023, 14:31:55isn't it kinda embarrassing to admit you've bought such a bad laptop

It is a bad idea to discourage people from reporting actually experienced problems. We can all profit from such reports.

Quote from: Chirag on December 21, 2023, 10:12:56Th le RAM ony 5530 doesn't run at advertised 4800MHz. During benchmark too it ran at around 2400MHz Max.

2400 x2 = 4800

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NikoB, isn't it kinda embarrassing to admit you've bought such a bad laptop after you've spent so much effort trying to convince everyone you know a thing or two about them in this forum.

Was it the one with 800:1 screen and 60% sRGB? ) And "5 years" from 2018 is 2023, so most of your silly opuses about "shameful screens" here you've written using that? )

Don't buy Dell G, their keyboards fall apart due to a deliberate artificial aging scheme. There is plenty of evidence of this on the forums. I personally encountered this this fall after 5 years of using the Dell G5 5587. And although I hardly used its disgusting flat keyboard with extremely short key travel and very little tactile feedback (it almost feels like you are tapping your fingers not on the keyboard, but on the table or touchscreen), but mainly an external keyboard - it itself, almost new, failed after exactly 5 years. I have never had a single laptop whose keyboard failed even after 10 years, and I have several from different manufacturers...

The only advantage of the G series is the very increased threshold for turning on coolers (72-75C in 5587), unlike, for example, the Lenovo Legion series (50-60C), so this series, in office work and at loads up to 35-40%, almost silent, the coolers simply don't turn on for hours (I haven't serviced mine for more than 4 years, but when I changed the SSD, the coolers were pristinely clean, like from the factory, because at my load (<50%), I never played on it, they They just don't turn on all day long) - it was precisely for this property and weight of 2.83 kg that I chose it in 2018. But this series had no other advantages.

Also, the weak point of all Dells is their extremely low-quality batteries, which can randomly turn off the laptop even when the charge is more than 75%. And often coolers begin to crack after just 1-2 months. These are also common problems on forums.

In general, think 10 times before contacting Dell...

Consider also the unfortunate fact that the Alienware series was also completely destroyed a few years ago when they changed the keyboard there from a gorgeous one to the same crap as in the G series. If you need a good keyboard for performance and good tactile feedback, it is better to avoid Dell products in the gaming sector.

Th le RAM ony 5530 doesn't run at advertised 4800MHz. During benchmark too it ran at around 2400MHz Max.

What I like about the Dell G15:

+ Chassis thickness (not too thin but not too thick either)
+ Weight (3 kg show that they focussed on cooling more than on looking good on marketing papers. Highly appreciated!)
+ Relatively big fans
+ Vapor chamber is AWESOME on a midrange gaming laptop.
+ Decent performance (4060 + i7-13650hx seem to be an appropriate yet not too expensive combination)
+ Fan noise under load (47db is still a tad too loud for me. Much better though than many competitors who reach over 50db. Can you adjust the fan curve to top out at around 43 to 44 db?)

What I dislike:
- Design (the bulky blue back and the orange heatsinks and keyboard lettering look pretty cheap to me)
- The huge and ugly power brick is pure trolling to me, especially on a laptop with a 4060! For me this would be a reason to not buy the laptop. The Alienware M16 has a beautiful, sleek power adaptor.
- Inverted motherboard (makes repasting more or less impossible, but I don't know if this is still required and recommended with their conductive(?) element 31 thermal paste)
- Panel brightness (300 nits are too low for using the laptop on the outside. More and more competitors go for 500 nits or more)

Personally I would go for the Alienware M16 due to the more quality chassis design and even better cooling with 3 fans (+ 1 tiny toy fan) if it had a 500 nits display.

Quote from: PHVM_BR on June 26, 2023, 19:17:42The m.2 connectors are adjustable to fit from 2230 to 2280 SSDs:

www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/g-series-15-5530-laptop/dell-g15-5530-owners-manual/removing-the-solid-state-drive?guid=guid-63988140-558b-403e-b97c-a8f7e4c12a3f&lang=en-us

Yes, but only the 2nd slot has standoffs to accommodate 2280 drives. The primary slot can only take a 2242. I'll have a word with Dell to confirm.

Quote from: PHVM_BR on June 26, 2023, 19:17:42The m.2 connectors are adjustable to fit from 2230 to 2280 SSDs:

This is a question for the author and the quality of his review.

QuoteDell offers two M.2 2242 slots for storage drives instead of the more ubiquitous M.2 2280 variety.

The m.2 connectors are adjustable to fit from 2230 to 2280 SSDs:

www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/g-series-15-5530-laptop/dell-g15-5530-owners-manual/removing-the-solid-state-drive?guid=guid-63988140-558b-403e-b97c-a8f7e4c12a3f&lang=en-us