Who can really be confused by all these marketing tricks except the completely illiterate crowd? An adult will simply understand what to buy before making a choice. And if an average person cannot figure out these simple tricks, then this average person is in fact incompetent as an adult human and does not deserve the title Homo Sapiens.

Well if the 13th gen U series isn't a whole lot better then the 12th gen. I don't really care what they call their chips. Intel does this crap to confuse buyers on purpose so you don't know what exactly your getting. Could be leftovers from past gen or maybe a so so refresh calling it something new. Sort of like any new and improved claims for a product. Is it really new, or just slightly new with a shiny new name.

Quote from: Philipp2324 on June 23, 2023, 18:08:11

Quote from: JeffK on June 23, 2023, 16:20:53Clickbait article

Meteor Lake = New tile architecture = new name

Raptor Lake Refresh = Traditional architecture = traditional name

No, Intel also uses the new logo and name for the Raptor Lake Refresh.

Core Ultra 5/7/9 – Meteor Lake
Core 3/5/7 – Raptor Lake-U Refresh

That's not a new logo. That's the same logo on a new sticker. Intel updates sticker every year when they release new gen. But in their 50+ years of existence they only changed logo only for a handful (I think only a couple but there could be one more) of times.

I agree with JeffK and m53. It would have been confusing if they called both the same just like they did for Tiger Lake and Rocket Lake. I think they are correcting that with this generation and simplifying the naming. I hope AMD will do the same and stop calling all their Zen2, Zen3, and Zen4 chips as same 7000 series.

Quote from: m53 on June 23, 2023, 16:16:44so Intel will use a new tile based architecture (and new process node) for their mobile CPUs, while using traditional architecture for their desktop line. To differentiate their new mobile line, they opt in for a new naming scheme while keeping the old naming scheme for desktop.

How is this confusing?

If Intel also changed the branding for the desktop line which uses traditional architecture, that would've been confusing.

You somehow missed that the HX series is mobile grade just like the U series, but the first is on Intel 7 and the second is presumably on Intel 4. Hopefully Intel introduces a third tier for the Arrow Lake desktop processors next year, otherwise there will be even more confusion.

Quote from: JeffK on June 23, 2023, 16:20:53Clickbait article

Meteor Lake = New tile architecture = new name

Raptor Lake Refresh = Traditional architecture = traditional name

No, Intel also uses the new logo and name for the Raptor Lake Refresh.

Core Ultra 5/7/9 – Meteor Lake
Core 3/5/7 – Raptor Lake-U Refresh

Clickbait article

Meteor Lake = New tile architecture = new name

Raptor Lake Refresh = Traditional architecture = traditional name

so Intel will use a new tile based architecture (and new process node) for their mobile CPUs, while using traditional architecture for their desktop line. To differentiate their new mobile line, they opt in for a new naming scheme while keeping the old naming scheme for desktop.

How is this confusing?

If Intel also changed the branding for the desktop line which uses traditional architecture, that would've been confusing.

I despise companies that make changes like this for the sake of making changes. It rarely if ever makes it easier. USB foundation is a great example of this.