Quote from: Cliffton on May 17, 2023, 04:26:38Come on man stop digging.  You are describing miniLED.  MicroLED is per pixel.  Anyone using it to describe something else is misusing the term as it is commonly understood 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroLED

this is not describing the tech, but explanation for certain point for the displays.
and I don't know what your point of the wiki link is? as it doesn't relate to our discussing.
I have already explained that in my previous comment, yes micro led can be used as self-emissive, and also can be used as backlight for lcd. even when it's capable of self-emissive. but some recent sources(news) about micro led shows, that micro led can achieve similar pixel size like oled or even smaller. so, I miss this in my previous comment. anyway, I need to wait and see because microLED is still in its early stages of development, and it is not yet commercially available in a wide range for people. 

Come on man stop digging.  You are describing miniLED.  MicroLED is per pixel.  Anyone using it to describe something else is misusing the term as it is commonly understood 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroLED

QuoteTotally false. It's you who are utterly confused. Stop spreading misinformation.Micro-leds are indeed sel-illuminating pixels just like OLED and are NOT LCD TV's in any way shape or form. Micro-led will be the premium tier technology eventually, pushing OLED down the rung.

GO read and educate yourself in this link search for micro-led (nature site)
Micro-LED can be used as locally dimmable backlight for high dynamic range (HDR) LCDs but not the same as OLED. So, micro-LEDs can be used as a backlight for LCDs, it's true Micro LED in some cases can also light up each individual pixel like OLED, but they are generally larger in size than OLED pixels. Micro LED pixels can range from around 5-10 microns to over 100 microns in size, depending on the manufacturer. This is still smaller than the pixels used in traditional LED displays, but larger than the sub-micron pixels used in OLED displays.

Quote from: sya on May 13, 2023, 18:25:07

Quote from: A on May 13, 2023, 12:51:11MicroLED has the same disadvantages as OLED, or more like it isn't really a disadvantage but as more pixels you have light up separately, the less uniform their lifespans are. Thus, the effect you get of "burn out" when lifespan of 1 pixel is less than the other. MicroLED just has longer lifespan in general, and doesn't suffer the issue of blue OLEDs having especially low lifespan (which is why I always avoid colors like white, purple, blue, yellow that mix in blue unless it is a WOLED, then white can be fine or OLED backlit then any color is fine)

It seems you have confused, the micro-led does not light individual pixel but near that level, it's actually similar to mini led but in smaller size. so it's still lcd screen, therefore there is no burn-in issue.
to clarify, micro-led is a display technology that uses tiny LED chips, which can be independently controlled to produce high-quality images. Unlike OLED, micro-led does not suffer from the issue of burn-in, as it does not rely on organic materials that degrade over time.

the only problem surfaced about micro-led that I can find, one potential challenge with MicroLED displays is the excessive heat generated by the LEDs. This heat can impact the overall performance and lifespan of the display. This issue is not related to pixel lifespan or burn-in, but rather the technology ability to dissipate heat effectively. this may result in thicker screen or fan inside the screen, like we see in some of the mini led monitors.
 

Totally false. It's you who are utterly confused. Stop spreading misinformation.Micro-leds are indeed sel-illuminating pixels just like OLED and are NOT LCD TV's in any way shape or form. Micro-led will be the premium tier technology eventually, pushing OLED down the rung.

Quote from: A on May 13, 2023, 12:51:11MicroLED has the same disadvantages as OLED, or more like it isn't really a disadvantage but as more pixels you have light up separately, the less uniform their lifespans are. Thus, the effect you get of "burn out" when lifespan of 1 pixel is less than the other. MicroLED just has longer lifespan in general, and doesn't suffer the issue of blue OLEDs having especially low lifespan (which is why I always avoid colors like white, purple, blue, yellow that mix in blue unless it is a WOLED, then white can be fine or OLED backlit then any color is fine)

It seems you have confused, the micro-led does not light individual pixel but near that level, it's actually similar to mini led but in smaller size. so it's still lcd screen, therefore there is no burn-in issue.
to clarify, micro-led is a display technology that uses tiny LED chips, which can be independently controlled to produce high-quality images. Unlike OLED, micro-led does not suffer from the issue of burn-in, as it does not rely on organic materials that degrade over time.

the only problem surfaced about micro-led that I can find, one potential challenge with MicroLED displays is the excessive heat generated by the LEDs. This heat can impact the overall performance and lifespan of the display. This issue is not related to pixel lifespan or burn-in, but rather the technology ability to dissipate heat effectively. this may result in thicker screen or fan inside the screen, like we see in some of the mini led monitors.
 

Quote from: sya on May 13, 2023, 11:12:10I don't know if OLED technology will overcome its shortcoming. but for me I prefer if apple will focus on Micro LED rather than OLED.
from what I see of micro-led TV, it become the real alternative to OLED screen. and it does not have the disadvantage of the OLED (burn-in, lower brightness, flickering)
and yes, it's Definitely it has some disadvantage, nothing is perfect. 

MicroLED has the same disadvantages as OLED, or more like it isn't really a disadvantage but as more pixels you have light up separately, the less uniform their lifespans are. Thus, the effect you get of "burn out" when lifespan of 1 pixel is less than the other. MicroLED just has longer lifespan in general, and doesn't suffer the issue of blue OLEDs having especially low lifespan (which is why I always avoid colors like white, purple, blue, yellow that mix in blue unless it is a WOLED, then white can be fine or OLED backlit then any color is fine)

I don't know if OLED technology will overcome its shortcoming. but for me I prefer if apple will focus on Micro LED rather than OLED.
from what I see of micro-led TV, it become the real alternative to OLED screen. and it does not have the disadvantage of the OLED (burn-in, lower brightness, flickering)
and yes, it's Definitely it has some disadvantage, nothing is perfect. 

It is fine if OLED and IPS are options. OLED with flickering only lets everybody disliking this move elsewhere.

Isn't the reason MacBooks are so expensive supposed to be that they use the very best hardware?

This is silly on Apple's part.  OLED based Macbooks would increase the upgrade cycle.  By delaying OLED, they'll be increasingly giving people a huge reason to buy Windows laptops which increasingly have these great displays.