Quote from: Hunter2020 on April 08, 2023, 15:05:26Doesn't matter how powerful the latest I will never touch a device powered by Qualcomm.  I have 9 Ivy Bridge PCs and 1 Tiger Lake.  The Tiger Lake will be my last Intel.  For me, I will be waiting for a Hisilicon powered PC, or some other (mostly Chinese) non-AMD non-Intel (and in tablets and phones non-Qualcomm).  I can afford the wait because my 10 x86 PCs (some new/spares I haven't even unboxed yet) will last me quite a while.  The next decade will be interesting with China even possibly surpassing US chip fabbing.  US companies really shot themselves in the foot by refusing to run WinXP/7/8 on newer machines and also semicon sanctions on China.

Alright, you got 9 Ivy bridge PCs, so what? Do you think you can get 9 times the performance by mashing them all into a giant pulp? or rather ridiculously, you intend to use them all at once..huh?
I agree, it ain't worth while to buy new cpus every single generation or three. But those small IPC gains do make up for a big jump if you wait enough. I had core i3 330m and am using core i5 8250u and the years between these products is almost 8 years yet the performance for single core has increased less than 3 times. That sounds a lot but core i3 330m ain't a beast, more like comparing core i7 to a 10 year old Pentium. Yet upgrading every 4/5 generations should be good enough for common folk.

China ain't gonna surpass USA because USA has lagged behind. Taiwan's TSMC is the one you should be talking about. Even Intel is gonna outsource its (some) chips to TSMC cuz it can't compete.

You do know Hisilicon-pc if they ever got made, is gonna be based on ARM. Since you use x86, how are you going to change your whole workflow to ARM and especially, When You Have 9 IVY BRIDGE PCs?

Dude, 10 x86 PCs might sound nice on paper but they are going to get old one day right? It's not like a LED light bulb you replace every 2 years or so. Yeah, having a backup PC ain't bad but the way your thinking is like not-so-techsavvy grandparents everyone has
 

Quote from: Hunter2020 on April 08, 2023, 15:05:26Doesn't matter how powerful the latest I will never touch a device powered by Qualcomm.  I have 9 Ivy Bridge PCs and 1 Tiger Lake.  The Tiger Lake will be my last Intel.  For me, I will be waiting for a Hisilicon powered PC, or some other (mostly Chinese) non-AMD non-Intel (and in tablets and phones non-Qualcomm).  I can afford the wait because my 10 x86 PCs (some new/spares I haven't even unboxed yet) will last me quite a while.  The next decade will be interesting with China even possibly surpassing US chip fabbing.  US companies really shot themselves in the foot by refusing to run WinXP/7/8 on newer machines and also semicon sanctions on China.

a poor Russian who left without chips after sanctions, begging for China 🤣

a poor Russian who left without chips after sanctions, begging for China 🤣

CPU wise I think qualcomm cpus are already better than apple (at least in multi), so, I can see them defeating them soon in single core.

GPU wise is been better from at least three years right?, it can even compared with current adreno.

If they can improve 50% while keeping the 4nm node process then great, that will also keep the internal price down, so price could stabilize this year (technically for last quarter of the year devices).

The 8G3 will be amazing and the 8G4 with 3nm node could be a beast!

Quote from: Hunter2020 on April 08, 2023, 15:05:26Doesn't matter how powerful the latest I will never touch a device powered by Qualcomm.  I have 9 Ivy Bridge PCs and 1 Tiger Lake.  The Tiger Lake will be my last Intel.  For me, I will be waiting for a Hisilicon powered PC, or some other (mostly Chinese) non-AMD non-Intel (and in tablets and phones non-Qualcomm).  I can afford the wait because my 10 x86 PCs (some new/spares I haven't even unboxed yet) will last me quite a while.  The next decade will be interesting with China even possibly surpassing US chip fabbing.  US companies really shot themselves in the foot by refusing to run WinXP/7/8 on newer machines and also semicon sanctions on China.

That is delusional, holy moly...

Doesn't matter how powerful the latest I will never touch a device powered by Qualcomm.  I have 9 Ivy Bridge PCs and 1 Tiger Lake.  The Tiger Lake will be my last Intel.  For me, I will be waiting for a Hisilicon powered PC, or some other (mostly Chinese) non-AMD non-Intel (and in tablets and phones non-Qualcomm).  I can afford the wait because my 10 x86 PCs (some new/spares I haven't even unboxed yet) will last me quite a while.  The next decade will be interesting with China even possibly surpassing US chip fabbing.  US companies really shot themselves in the foot by refusing to run WinXP/7/8 on newer machines and also semicon sanctions on China.