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Posted by Latchback
 - February 18, 2023, 16:55:26
Quote from: NikoB on February 18, 2023, 13:37:14All the consumer needs is a performance increase of 1W. Steady and fast growth. All the rest does not matter.

Neither Intel, nor AMD, nor even Apple can provide such growth within the framework of the requirements of modern computing tasks facing humanity.

This is a technological dead end.

There will be no breakthrough in the next 50 years.

So after you die then?

Ok well, the sooner that happens, the sooner we get that breakthrough.
Posted by NikoB
 - February 18, 2023, 13:37:14
All the consumer needs is a performance increase of 1W. Steady and fast growth. All the rest does not matter.

Neither Intel, nor AMD, nor even Apple can provide such growth within the framework of the requirements of modern computing tasks facing humanity.

This is a technological dead end.

There will be no breakthrough in the next 50 years.
Posted by Anonymousgg
 - February 18, 2023, 08:31:57
Quote from: kek on February 17, 2023, 19:04:11I, for one, dont mind the E-cores idea at all. The thing is, well, those e-cores are still skylake based chips, so they arent that good.

If maybe they were TigerLake or even IceLake based, we would had something better at hand, but for now, that's it.

Yeah, I don't mind it in theory. After all, it's the same approach used by hundreds of millions of ARM chips, and it increases multi-threaded performance per die area.

Maybe this Royal Core approach could be considered like a superior form of hyperthreading that gives 100-300% more multi-threaded performance instead of ~30%.

We should see an improvement in E-cores soon, with the Crestmont cores in Meteor Lake.
Posted by LL
 - February 17, 2023, 23:59:11
The problem of current e-cores are their weak results confort wise.
I can't still have a totally silent laptop listening to music or seeing a movie.
Posted by Scott
 - February 17, 2023, 22:28:26
Jim Keller hasn't worked for Intel since June of 2020.
Posted by grrr
 - February 17, 2023, 20:19:22
First it's Pentium 4, and then it's Xeon phi. Now it's bulldozer.
Posted by kek
 - February 17, 2023, 19:04:11
Quote from: Anonymousgg on February 17, 2023, 16:24:27I know some people would be happy to get moar P-cores. There are people buying Alder or Raptor Lake right now, only to disable the E-cores. Instead, they could configure Royal Cores to act as P-cores forever. If this leak is true (never trust a Brit).

I, for one, dont mind the E-cores idea at all. The thing is, well, those e-cores are still skylake based chips, so they arent that good.

If maybe they were TigerLake or even IceLake based, we would had something better at hand, but for now, that's it.
Posted by Anonymousgg
 - February 17, 2023, 16:24:27
I know some people would be happy to get moar P-cores. There are people buying Alder or Raptor Lake right now, only to disable the E-cores. Instead, they could configure Royal Cores to act as P-cores forever. If this leak is true (never trust a Brit).
Posted by Redaktion
 - February 17, 2023, 12:01:59
Calling it "Intel's Ryzen moment", hardware leaker Paul from RedGamingTech has disclosed preliminary information regarding the Royal Core project. The leaker thinks that with Royal Core" Intel is getting rid of its P and E cores for individual CPU tiles that can transform based on the workload.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Revolutionary-Intel-Royal-Core-project-could-see-P-and-E-cores-disappear-in-favor-of-CPU-tiles-for-added-efficiency-and-performance.695343.0.html