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Posted by Neenyah
 - September 12, 2023, 23:04:24
Your points are very valid but that same applies to every reviewer. However...

Quote from: graoIn on September 12, 2023, 20:46:07...and Notebookcheck results can prove misleading!
...they are literally always completely transparent in every single review they made since 2011 (since I discovered this site) and this review here is no different. There:

"Power Supply (max.)  58 °C = 136 F | Room Temperature 20 °C = 68 F | Fluke 62 Mini IR Thermometer"

( https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P16-G1-RTX-A5500-workstation-review-Faster-than-the-Dell-Precision-7670.686478.0.html#toc-4 )
Posted by graoIn
 - September 12, 2023, 20:46:07
Readers should note that Notebookcheck performs the test & benchmarks at low ambient temperatures of 20-21C typically. In tropical climates the ambient temperatures exceed 27C and even going into the 30's (i am personally comfortable working in upto 32C ambient without airconditioning). Laptop performance can degrade severely (thermal throttling) under those conditions and Notebookcheck results can prove misleading! 
If only Notebookcheck did their test at 26-27C ambient, that would have been a better representation of laptop performance.
Posted by iViLe
 - February 25, 2023, 22:02:00
I ordered this when it was first available online at Lenovo, 12850hx vpro, ECC ram, a5500. I do industrial 3d scanning. I only bought it due to it being about 50% off on the Lenovo site. Ihave bought more ECC memory for it since, but it hasn't faulted me once during work.
Posted by Freddell
 - February 14, 2023, 14:15:36
Quote from: LAN on February 12, 2023, 20:26:50Removing RJ45 is very stupid
Agree, its not like they use the PCIe lanes for something else
Posted by Freddell
 - February 14, 2023, 14:14:00
The i9 CPU in the reviewed unit SUPPORTS ECC RAM.
They have for the last couple of generations.

Check intel ARK. (forum does not allow me to share link)
Posted by LAN
 - February 12, 2023, 20:26:50
Removing RJ45 is very stupid
Posted by DanielG
 - February 12, 2023, 18:58:53
ludicrous that anyone would buy this last gen part laptop for anything more than $2k.

For this money you could buy a dual 4090 xeon workstation or a quadro.
Posted by LL
 - February 12, 2023, 17:40:32
Still it is a waste of high quality GPU not being able to push it to the max due industry dismal tendency to not put game cooling performance level in workstations.

And no RJ45 is a big fault.
Posted by Pooh Sheisty
 - February 12, 2023, 17:35:41
Did someone mistype a zero? No way this device is worth 9K
Posted by LL
 - February 12, 2023, 17:33:15
Very nice value of 21 sec for Blender Classroom GPU  at 130w i guess 7424 CUDA cores vs 3840 for my 130w RTX3060 matters. Mine does the same scene in 29.9 sec.

But like others have said it way too expensive for what it offers.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - February 12, 2023, 16:59:14
Does the person needing a $9000 notebook exist?
Posted by Benjamin Herzig
 - February 12, 2023, 16:34:11
It isn't though. The workstation segment is not as fast paced as other parts of the laptop market and so far, not a single HP ZBook/Dell Precision/Lenovo ThinkPad P with a 13th Gen CPU has been announced.

So if any customer needs a machine today and not in like 3 to 6 months, this review and this model is very relevant
Posted by NikoB
 - February 12, 2023, 16:15:21
Quote from: Benjamin Herzig on February 12, 2023, 16:07:30Neither the processor nor the laptop were on the market one year ago, so...nope
that it was a figure of speech to emphasize the date of the review. The model today is simply irrelevant, even at a 2 times lower price.
Posted by Benjamin Herzig
 - February 12, 2023, 16:07:30
Quote from: NikoB on February 12, 2023, 16:00:25the review is outdated by a whole year ...
Neither the processor nor the laptop were on the market one year ago, so...nope
Posted by NikoB
 - February 12, 2023, 16:00:25
And the screen is still shameful 60Hz, with a monstrous response and low contrast.

Even the cheap Thinkbook G4+ 14" screens have 1500:1 contrast and 90Hz panels.

It's ridiculous, since 4k @ 120Hz screens have been on the market for a long time since 2021. And even with miniLED backlight.

The screen is even worse in terms of color reproduction of my old monitor more than 10 years ago, and in terms of panel response time, it loses the panels of my monitor by more than 5 (!) times.

Even the mandatory RJ45 for 2.5-5Gbps for 2022 business series is missing. This is just complete bullshit...

Why pay $9,000 here? Lenovo? Even $4000 is in question, with such a processor against the backdrop of Raptor Lake. Such models now, if they have remained in retail anywhere, they will remain there forever until they are sold for nothing to some store employee or some manager buys them for the company for a kickback ...

This is clearly not a top-end laptop, even by the standards of a year ago, and the review is outdated by a whole year ...

Quote from: RobertJasiek on February 12, 2023, 11:28:55NBC's Load Average noise values are inconsistent. Sometimes they measure CPU load - sometimes GPU load. For this device, the value is a dream but measured for the CPU and says nothing about GPU-only load. An additional Furmark-only Load Average value would be very helpful.
It is necessary to measure the load on the processor with a load of cores up to 45% in total in the background - this is the most typical scenario for using any laptop, outside of intensive computing, where all of them, without exception, are many times noisier than desktops.