And M2 Max have 512 bit memory controller with 400Gbyte/s throughput. Raptor have only 128 bit memory controller and real average throughput 80Gbyte/s with DDR5 5600...

Quote from: applesux on January 29, 2023, 19:52:02

Quote from: pcfags on January 29, 2023, 16:39:11

Quote from: Aliyu on January 28, 2023, 15:13:11Raptor lake and AMD dragon CPUs will smash those M2 out of the water. AMD will also beat the M2 at performance per watt. 20023 is looking good for PC laptops

PC n*ggas be like : it gonna smash a 30w chip with a 300w laptop cpu checkmate apple fags

From Notebookcheck: "The M2 Max is manufactured in 5 nm at TSMC (second generation) and integrates 40 billion transistors. The power consumption of the CPU part is up to 36 Watt according to powermetrics. When fully loading the CPU and GPU cores, the chip uses up to 89 Watt and the CPU part is limited to 25 Watt."

Also from their site: "The CPU (Intel Core i9-13900HX) is still produced in a further improved 10nm FinFET process (Intel 7) that allows the higher clock speeds. The power consumption is specified at 55W base power up to 157 Watt max."

So Apple's 89w to Intel's 157. Barely double, not the 10x you think.

Really? Did you even read what you quote? For the Apple, "the CPU part is limited to 25 Watt", while for the Intel the 157W will go entirely to the CPU. Not 10x but over 6x it is.

New AMD 7736U in Passmark, 23.860 points! 15-28w TDP.

So no mention of AMD's Dragon range ir Phoenix Point APUS'. Dragon Range HX processors will obliterate Raptor Lake HX in efficiency in the 35-65W range. AMD's Zen4 is vastly better than Raptor Lake at low power as already tested by Anandtech. So how about some balanced journalism.

Of course it will beat M2... it'll also be a nice space heater and sound like you live next to the airport just opening a couple Chrome tabs... lmao.

Quote from: pcfags on January 29, 2023, 16:39:11

Quote from: Aliyu on January 28, 2023, 15:13:11Raptor lake and AMD dragon CPUs will smash those M2 out of the water. AMD will also beat the M2 at performance per watt. 20023 is looking good for PC laptops

PC n*ggas be like : it gonna smash a 30w chip with a 300w laptop cpu checkmate apple fags

From Notebookcheck: "The M2 Max is manufactured in 5 nm at TSMC (second generation) and integrates 40 billion transistors. The power consumption of the CPU part is up to 36 Watt according to powermetrics. When fully loading the CPU and GPU cores, the chip uses up to 89 Watt and the CPU part is limited to 25 Watt."

Also from their site: "The CPU (Intel Core i9-13900HX) is still produced in a further improved 10nm FinFET process (Intel 7) that allows the higher clock speeds. The power consumption is specified at 55W base power up to 157 Watt max."

So Apple's 89w to Intel's 157. Barely double, not the 10x you think.

Quote from: Aliyu on January 28, 2023, 15:13:11Raptor lake and AMD dragon CPUs will smash those M2 out of the water. AMD will also beat the M2 at performance per watt. 20023 is looking good for PC laptops

18,000 years too late :(

Raptor lake and AMD dragon CPUs will smash those M2 out of the water. AMD will also beat the M2 at performance per watt. 20023 is looking good for PC laptops

After 2.5 years since the release of M1, the IPC of the M2 Max remains the same, since the 10-15% single core performance increase is coming from the higher CPU frequency.

Zero CPU architecture improvement after 2.5 years. This is really disappointing for a trillion dollar company.

"but Raptor Lake-HX is yet to strike"


Let's consider the power efficiency... the discussion is immediately over. Apple will stay far ahead, even more when operating without a socket.