Quote from: Bane on January 25, 2023, 13:40:06This can't be much of an actual problem. Superchargers are almost always notably farther from the business than 50%+ of the normal parking. If your goal is to park far away and walk, there are usually more convenient places. And the same goes for anyone who wants to park close to the business.

Of course, that being the case, it just highlights how much of an a** you have to be to purposefully block a charger that you aren't going to use.

I've had two times in the past 8 years when the only available space was a supercharger space. Both times, I plugged in and charged. I had the right to charge, but I still felt a bit awkward about it since I didn't need a charge. At one of the places, half the cars weren't even Teslas. And a person absolutely needing a charge probably would have gone to a station nearby that doesn't have a parking problem. It was either leaving myself with no space or leaving someone else with no space, with no serious chance of stopping someone from charging a few minutes away.

Quote from: Kevin23 on January 25, 2023, 16:54:11

Quote from: Dimercaprol on January 25, 2023, 12:18:44Why only model 3 and Y? Doesn't make sense to exclude model S.

The Model S and X are software protected: the charge port will not open if the car is locked.

Nope. Just tried it with a Model S. The port opened fine after I locked the doors.

Tesla could fix it with software, but given the few reasons for it, it might not be in their best interest if it helps tie up Superchargers. I could justify it for a pre 2015 Model S, since the flap can open when someone presses a button on a charger handle more than one car away, and they don't self close. But for anything newer, I can't see a reason.

There's probably a way to defeat something, But it would be easier to face the car the wrong way.

Tesla should leave it alone. It's hard to blame someone for plugging a car in, given that the only legitimate reason to park there is to charge. Saying "I did it because you forgot to plug in and I didn't want you to be towed" is hard to argue against.

Quote from: CPolk on February 01, 2023, 23:22:42Suppose it was just a simple human error? Guy meant to plug in, but forgot. And dont tell me "I'm just doing them a favor." This is passive aggressive behavior of the first order. People need to chill the f_ck out and behave like civilized human beings instead of entitled as_holes.

So first you suppose they might have forgotten to plug it in, then say people that would "do them a favor" by plugging it in for them under that assumption are a**holes. Right, that makes plenty of sense. And I guess that instead of being passive aggressive and plugging them in, people should just be aggressive and key the cars or smash their windows? Oh, no, you're saying they shouldn't do anything in response to the only a**hole behavior going on here, which is to leave one's car blocking a charger, because somehow, in all of this, that's the only thing not wrong. Yeah, how dare some "entitled as_hole" want to charge their car. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with those  people. Next they'll expect to be able to buy food. Damn entitlement.

Suppose it was just a simple human error? Guy meant to plug in, but forgot. And dont tell me "I'm just doing them a favor." This is passive aggressive behavior of the first order. People need to chill the f_ck out and behave like civilized human beings instead of entitled as_holes.

What we will eventually see is someone getting hurt because of these actions. Well emergency help will be waiting to rush you to emergency if it's not to late.

While this is a very rude activity if true as I'm sure adequate and more convenient parking is available in most cases, I also think it is a design flaw that the charge port can be opened without a key.  Access to the charge port could allow malicious damage to the car's electrical system akin to pouring water, sugar, etc into the fuel tank of an ICE vehicle.

To be honest, if I saw one unplugged in a charger spot, I would assume some Coal Roller unplugged it in spite.  So I would naturally plug it in to complete charging as a courtesy.

A more civilized response compared to the traditional keying. Oh wait, Tesla's don't use keys.

Quote from: Dimercaprol on January 25, 2023, 12:18:44Why only model 3 and Y? Doesn't make sense to exclude model S.

The Model S and X are software protected: the charge port will not open if the car is locked.

This can't be much of an actual problem. Superchargers are almost always notably farther from the business than 50%+ of the normal parking. If your goal is to park far away and walk, there are usually more convenient places. And the same goes for anyone who wants to park close to the business.

Of course, that being the case, it just highlights how much of an a** you have to be to purposefully block a charger that you aren't going to use.

Why only model 3 and Y? Doesn't make sense to exclude model S. 

I hope they keep this feature.
Basically, a solution to people taking the space without using it to charge.

Quote from: Joe on January 24, 2023, 16:20:11What if some other nincompoop had unplugged the "offender" before you got there? Did they see the owner park there and walk away?

First, you cannot unplug someone's Tesla without the key, though you can plug it in. Second, if someone had unplugged it, then you would be doing a good deed by replugging it

What if some other nincompoop had unplugged the "offender" before you got there? Did they see the owner park there and walk away?

Hmmmm
If you parked your car at a gas station and walked away they'd ticket and tow you to an impound.
Sounds like the perfect solution
Done