I'm using R5 5600G, for most tasks currently very sufficient even for video editing. The processor was significant growth since Ryzen series launch and triggered Intel to have more cores too. In my opinion, since Ryzen series and Intel gen 10th processor become very capable for most task, we can imagine if Ryzen series not appear, may be Intel Core i7 series still has 4 cores 8 threads or slightly improve to 6 cores 12 threads

Quote from: kek on December 07, 2022, 21:11:04

Quote from: Dan6 on December 07, 2022, 20:10:10Consuming 500W of power and then hardly throttled to 1Ghz after 30 seconds of benchmark. Yeah, real champ I dream to buy.

Cope and seethe.

Go buy your Ryzen cpu and be happy.

Quote from: DestroyingAMDFanboys on December 07, 2022, 23:33:23LMAO.
13th gen isn't that inefficient compared to Zen 4. Just watch der8auers video on 13900K. Raptor lake i9 at 90W(basically Zen 4 eco mode equivalent) delivers much better fps-per-watt than 5800X3D.

Quote from: Bareback on December 08, 2022, 04:38:22

Quote from: Dan6 on December 07, 2022, 20:10:10Consuming 500W of power and then hardly throttled to 1Ghz after 30 seconds of benchmark. Yeah, real champ I dream to buy.

This is what you people asked for; this is what you got.
More power, for the sake of power.

Kids and fanboys - you didn't get the point. I don't have AMD, I don't care about AMD or Intel. And I don't care about FPS in modern shiny soulless games, mostly designed to loot money from kids. I don't like overall the path how consumer CPUs are developing. 95% of people who buy these CPUs - use them for games at best and don't need more than 8 threads. But instead, they push more cores into cpus skyrocketing power consumption because this way they can easier achieve some gains in benchmarks and as a result easier sell them, showing higher numbers. I believe that consumer market needs only around 8 cores, but they must be very efficient and with highest clock speeds maintained for longer. And not these 30 core monsters - I'm not running a server on my home computer, I don't want it to have a peak consumption of 600W when I just open a browser. If I need 30 cores - there is a workstation CPU market for that, but they save costs and unify architecture and you see who is their preferred customer..

There have been contradictory benchmarks for some time now, for example Passmark stating the 7700X being significantly faster both in single and multi-core. But things change with time and optimization too.

As usual, wait and see, and most of all, check statistical distribution of benchmarks. Passmark website has these, so you can see how it fluctuates in different implementations.

Quote from: Dan6 on December 07, 2022, 20:10:10Consuming 500W of power and then hardly throttled to 1Ghz after 30 seconds of benchmark. Yeah, real champ I dream to buy.

This is what you people asked for; this is what you got.
More power, for the sake of power.

14 cores vs 8 and we are surprised it beats 8 core 7700X in M/T benchmarks. AMD knew they had no answer to lots of e-cores but still kept prices high. Should have released Zen 4 with say 4 additional 4c Bergamo cores on each model and they would easily dominate.

With all those e-cores yeah. I guess AMD can strap a few Bulldozer cores on Ryzen to get the same multithread performance.

LMAO.
13th gen isn't that inefficient compared to Zen 4. Just watch der8auers video on 13900K. Raptor lake i9 at 90W(basically Zen 4 eco mode equivalent) delivers much better fps-per-watt than 5800X3D.

Quote from: Dan6 on December 07, 2022, 20:10:10Consuming 500W of power and then hardly throttled to 1Ghz after 30 seconds of benchmark. Yeah, real champ I dream to buy.

Cope and seethe.

Go buy your Ryzen cpu and be happy.

Consuming 500W of power and then hardly throttled to 1Ghz after 30 seconds of benchmark. Yeah, real champ I dream to buy.