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Posted by NikoB
 - December 03, 2022, 13:23:46
Quote from: Bidie on December 03, 2022, 08:06:14The 870 EVO has a terrible failure rate. Literally Google it and read the tons of forum posts about affecting this drive. Samsung made a firmware update, but at this time it's not known if it fixes the premature failure. And when I say failure, the drives literally corrupt everything and all data is lost. Really would not recommend this drive until Samsung address this issue. Stick to Crucial or similar.
I don't think that this is still a problem with defective NAND chips, it's just that at the end of 2020 and somewhere before the summer of 2021, Samsung clearly had problems with the quality of its own chips, and they apparently deliberately scored on quality control, considering that against the background promotion of your brand in the world, you can ignore the negative. But in reality, this had a rather strong impact on the reputation among the masses, and now their prices already look generally very high compared to competitors. Achieving any high reputation (and Samsung has already failed before) is very difficult, but it can be drained very quickly. Payment "for the brand" is only accepted by mass buyers when there is no negative in general, except for the already non-fatal problems that I described above.

In any case, even the most expensive SSD on the planet is a consumable and no one has canceled frequent backups of the most valuable data. SSDs die instantly, unlike HDDs, and take away all the data at once, with virtually no chance of recovery even by professional services, so they are extremely dangerous for gullible buyers, of whom the majority are. And the worst news is that with the growth in the volume of SSDs, and in the worst cases like QLC / PLC, the problem of data safety on such cheap SSDs will only grow exponentially.

Another thing is that it is quite difficult to buy a really productive, responsive under mixed load and when deleting large SSD files in practice for adequate money from the point of view of an ordinary consumer on the planet. And even more so to buy an SSD, which, without updating the cells, saves the data and the speed of their reading for a long time. And this is even more difficult and is not checked at all in any review, for a banal reason - such a test takes at least 1-1.5 years. Usually by that time the series has already been canceled altogether and it turns out that you need to test everything again. Everything that is sold in this mass niche is essentially garbage in terms of performance and long-term stability of data storage. Exactly what the vrobs are is the key for any buyer. Even the 970 Evo+, once favored by reviews, is never a benchmark in the same sense of the absence of friezes when deleting massive files. And that's the problem.
Posted by Saad
 - December 03, 2022, 09:11:32
The discounted prices has been literally the selling price for the past 4 months. There is no discount at all, it is a lie.
Posted by Bidie
 - December 03, 2022, 08:06:14
The 870 EVO has a terrible failure rate. Literally Google it and read the tons of forum posts about affecting this drive. Samsung made a firmware update, but at this time it's not known if it fixes the premature failure. And when I say failure, the drives literally corrupt everything and all data is lost. Really would not recommend this drive until Samsung address this issue. Stick to Crucial or similar.
Posted by Nicks
 - December 03, 2022, 06:55:15
Any recommendation for 2TB drives at or close to $100 to be used in a NAS setup with a 10gbe sfp+ link I want to keep saturated?
I'm thinking 4x 2TB and 1TB nvme cache
Posted by NikoB
 - December 02, 2022, 14:36:41
All Samsung 860/870 series have a problem when the disk is more than 85% full - they start to freeze even when a small amount of data is deleted.
And the main problem is that all Samsung controllers, when deleting very large data, hang for several seconds at the time of executing a massive Trim command, unlike the latest Phison controllers, which process this command in the background.

On the 870 series, there are a lot of complaints on the forums about defective NAND chips. Especially the wave of negative reviews began from the end of 2020 to the summer of 2021. Try not to take discs made at this time.
Posted by Redaktion
 - December 02, 2022, 11:21:16
Although SATA SSDs are no longer relevant to many users, there are still enough desktop PCs and laptops that could be kept alive for a few more years thanks to such an upgrade. Available in five capacities from 250 GB to 4 TB, the Samsung 870 EVO is discounted on Amazon by up to 43% (the 1 TB model, now priced at US$84.99).

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-870-EVO-SATA-SSDs-now-discounted-by-up-to-43-on-Amazon.672355.0.html