HDMI 2.0b not support 4k@60Hz with 30 bits 4:4:4 (lossless). But DP1.2 (from 2009 year!) is support this mode (but not support HDR protocol, it support DP1.4+ with max 25.9Gbps user data). HDMI 2.1 support 4k@120-165Hz with 30 bits 4:4:4 (lossless) only with full bandwidth 48Gbps (with service+user data and max 42Gbps with only user data).

DP 2.0 (full version) not support 8k for 100Hz+ even in legacy 24-bit color depth.
As we already know in advance, DP2.1 does not increase the bandwidth to the required 160Gbps in any way. In any case, as I wrote earlier - copper is no longer suitable for such a bandwidth - we need optics that solve many problems at once. Why it takes so long to implement this, I don't know.

In any case, 8k resolution is currently only possible in 2D and light 3D. Those. about games in 8k in the next 10 years there is definitely no question. Basically, 8k finally closes the topic of increased pixelation of fonts on screens of 25-32". Exactly where 4k is no longer enough (even at 25" 6k is already required at least to provide sufficient ppi around 270+).

Actually, 8k closes the topic of super-clear fonts, vector graphics and photos on the most popular diagonals for business and study. That is why 8k is so important. This is a new milestone in the history of information display, about the same level as the appearance of the first laser printers with at least 300 dpi.

It is unfortunate that Moore's "law" has practically stopped since the 2010s precisely because of the lack of sufficient bandwidth, interfaces and processing power of processors, we have remained so with the introduction of 8k in everyday life and business. At least 5-6 years. The 8k panels themselves physically appeared in 2013.

Quote from: Edd on October 14, 2022, 06:52:45Do these HDMI 2.1 ports not support 4k 120? That's all I care about as a media PC since I want to watch 24fps movies properly at 4k, rather than having to drop to 1080p.

If the port is limited to HDMI 2.0 speed, you can't do 4K@120 or 4K@60 10-bit (HDR) without 4:2:0 chroma subsampling. 4K@120 10-bit is out completely. You can be the judge on whether or not that matters.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_subsampling
rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling

Quote from: NikoB on October 13, 2022, 14:05:22As the HDMI consortium previously stated, the HDMI 2.1 nameplate doesn't really mean anything to the customer in terms of real progress from HDMI 2.0b - only the manufacturer's CLEAR indication that it's full HDMI 2.1 at 48Gbps (and ful set features of 2.1) tells  buyers that real full 2.1 ports, not fake 2.1 ports with a lower bandwidth and only support for some (not even all) of the 2.1 protocol's features.

As everyone was deceived first by Intel, and then by AMD with support for a full-fledged Display Port 2.0 - in reality, Zen4 does not have full support, but only support for 1/2 bandwidth (which is even much worse than the even older, but full-fledged HDMI 2.1 ). As a result, iron manufacturers will cheat consumers with fakes in all sold hardware instead of full-fledged HDMI 2.1 and DP2.0 ports (and it is extremely important for real support for 8k monitors, since HDMI 2.1 does not support 8k monitors and cannot physically).

All potential buyers need to know this.

Do these HDMI 2.1 ports not support 4k 120? That's all I care about as a media PC since I want to watch 24fps movies properly at 4k, rather than having to drop to 1080p.

Is beelink company a subsidiary of huawei? Or its a mistake in article

Yeah, no USB4 v2.0 no fun at all

Plus 5 USB-A connectors (from 1996) and only 1 USB-C connector (from 2014) even more

Tech companies could be reNaMED...NOfUnLiNK

Quote from: Leo_Vulkan on October 13, 2022, 16:27:26No USB4 = no fun

Quote from: Leo_Vulkan on October 13, 2022, 16:27:26No USB4 = no fun

No USB4 = no fun

As the HDMI consortium previously stated, the HDMI 2.1 nameplate doesn't really mean anything to the customer in terms of real progress from HDMI 2.0b - only the manufacturer's CLEAR indication that it's full HDMI 2.1 at 48Gbps (and ful set features of 2.1) tells  buyers that real full 2.1 ports, not fake 2.1 ports with a lower bandwidth and only support for some (not even all) of the 2.1 protocol's features.

As everyone was deceived first by Intel, and then by AMD with support for a full-fledged Display Port 2.0 - in reality, Zen4 does not have full support, but only support for 1/2 bandwidth (which is even much worse than the even older, but full-fledged HDMI 2.1 ). As a result, iron manufacturers will cheat consumers with fakes in all sold hardware instead of full-fledged HDMI 2.1 and DP2.0 ports (and it is extremely important for real support for 8k monitors, since HDMI 2.1 does not support 8k monitors and cannot physically).

All potential buyers need to know this.