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Posted by RobertJasiek
 - July 13, 2022, 01:17:34
Manufacturers show that they can offer devices with some good features possible at given MSRPs but almost always also include bad features that also could be good at those MSRPs. For different devices, they select different good and bad features. Thus the problem is the manufacturers' inability to set the right aims, with which all features could be good at those MSRPs. This is so regardless of having to make some compromises for mobile devices due to their form factors. Other aspects are cutting development costs so neglecting or discarding some aims, attaching advertisement labels, adding crapware or imposing unwanted terms.
Posted by NikoB
 - July 12, 2022, 23:19:41
Finally a really fast 4k panel!
But! Shameful contrast, crosses out everything. This is not even a fly in the ointment, but immediately a scoop ...

The second killer joint is a very noisy cooling system! MSI, how did your engineers manage to make this laptop noisy with afwul 34dB(!) when out ridiculous 29-30W from the case? Yes, there coolers should simply be turned off with this 30-35W in 17.3" case! In surfing and the office, even in the profile, the maximum performance is exactly the same. I know that MSI has a proprietary cooler speed curve adjustment utility, but I'm not sure if this will fix everything. At least the testers did not write anything about it. And what's the point of testing without quietly adjusting these curves?

The memory works well (although the memory latency is rather big - 83ns), Plus. The speed in Ray Trace 64 in AIDA64 finally crushes last year's 5800H outright! Hooray! And they threw caps into the air ...

Well, as always, the Chinese (except Lenovo) have a bad keyboard for the numpad. MSI, why do you year after year, with the persistence of sheep, make a spoiled numpad with an right arrow in place of the normal Insert button, destroying blind input and navigation for people who work, not gaming? You know that Lenovo has been making a normal keyboard for a long time (well, not counting the slightly narrowed number pad buttons) - just moving the arrows down... What prevents your engineers from ordering the same and even better,  taking into account the price of this "masterpiece", against the background of which even an exclusively ordered special keyboard model costs a penny?

Well, in the back, as it were, there is a place for an optical spdif to transmit digital sound galvanically isolated from the laptop's power circuits and there is a place for eSATA, can you imagine - sometimes it is very useful for hardware testing of HDDs in stores ....

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Well, damn it, someone already make normal models of universal laptops with a normal keyboard with normal numpad (or easily replaced with a normal version), quiet in a load of up to 35-40W (or when an impulse load with a full PL1 (PL2) does not exceed 10-15 seconds , like surfing). With normally located ports and their complete set. With good contrast (from 1500:1+) panel 178/178 4k@120-144Hz. And then only selling, sell and sell, as a universal model for both work and leisure. And do not need dozens of moronic models. We need one, but universal with the criteria indicated above. Well, what prevents manufacturers from releasing a normal convenient and comfortable laptop? Is it some secret sadistic desire to annoy customers?
Posted by Redaktion
 - July 12, 2022, 19:47:54
With a Core i9-12900HX and a GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, the MSI laptop offers enough performance for 4K gaming, video editing, and rendering. In fact, it often reaches the best benchmark results we have seen from this GPU so far.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Raider-GE77-HX-12UHS-in-review-4K-gaming-notebook-with-top-performance.634343.0.html