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Posted by EE
 - June 27, 2022, 01:18:59
You aren't measuring PWM. If you look at the scope stats it clearly shows the width is roughly constant, the amplitude is changing. More like pulse-amplitude-modulation. This is misleading journalism. Please correct it. Maybe I'm not understanding what the scope is hooked up to, but that is clearly not showing a modulated pulse width.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - June 26, 2022, 18:37:42
Quote from: Lorry on June 26, 2022, 18:16:11I don't understand these decisions most laptop OEMs are making in coordination in 2022.

- Forcefully shoving 30-55W chips (P, HS, H, HX, HK series) inside many thin laptops that used U-series a year before, with zero improvements to cooling solution, battery capacity, and component power efficiency.

- Not offering any "big battery + U-series chip" combo that can get decent battery life when using premium features (dedicated graphics, 4k screen, speakers, stylus, touchscreen, etc) while unplugged. Hence driving more and more people into arms of Apple MacBooks.

- Putting a dim 350 Nit display on a supposedly "premium 2-in-1" device designed to be used as a mobile tablet.

- Non-upgradeable / repairable memory on a 15" laptop.
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Which leaves non-technical buyers feel like they were deceived, yet again.

Precisely. Why o why.
Posted by Lorry
 - June 26, 2022, 18:16:11
I don't understand these decisions most laptop OEMs are making in coordination in 2022.

- Forcefully shoving 30-55W chips (P, HS, H, HX, HK series) inside many thin laptops that used U-series a year before, with zero improvements to cooling solution, battery capacity, and component power efficiency.

- Not offering any "big battery + U-series chip" combo that can get decent battery life when using premium features (dedicated graphics, 4k screen, speakers, stylus, touchscreen, etc) while unplugged. Hence driving more and more people into arms of Apple MacBooks.

- Putting a dim 350 Nit display on a supposedly "premium 2-in-1" device designed to be used as a mobile tablet.

- Non-upgradeable / repairable memory on a 15" laptop.

Also I get that Intel is paying big sums of cash to every single OEM to push the Arc GPU into the same thin form-factor. That much is obvious, since Asus, Lenovo, HP, MSI, and Acer have suddenly all transitioned their "thin/light multimedia" laptops from RTX 3050Ti to A370M in perfect unison without an explanation.

But let's be honest here... using this Zenbook laptop with 12700H chip (45-130 Watts) on battery power, OLED's white pixels turned up to 350 Nits, at native 3K resolution, using the active stylus, navigating the windows touch UI at 120Hz screen refresh, Wi-Fi on, Bluetooth mouse and headphones plugged in, with multiple browser tabs and documents open?

9 hours 22 minutes is far from a realistic result.

Which leaves non-technical buyers feel like they were deceived, yet again. Because most sponsored "reviews", manufacturer ads, and even trusty sources like Notebookcheck, never actually gives any info on the "real" battery life using a device the way you would use.

And by the time they figure the Arc GPU drivers don't work well with productivity apps, the screen is too dim as tablet, battery life too poor, and speaker/webcam/keyboard are nowhere near good as you'd hoped for hefty premium price, it's too damn late. Another disappointing laptop.
Posted by cmvrgr
 - June 26, 2022, 15:16:52
Another power hog from intel. Lets hope that the next 5 years arm based cpus with integraded gpus will be broadly available to ditch all that energy hungry devices. Being true mobile needs to be more energy efficient.
Posted by 996forever
 - June 26, 2022, 13:58:55
Why is the previous model with 1650 max q or 3050 options not included in the comparison yet you included the ancient and irrelevant 1060? Too afraid to make this thing look even worse than it already does?
Posted by Gpu
 - June 26, 2022, 02:20:44
They should have used the 3050/3050ti instead of the 370m...
Posted by Redaktion
 - June 25, 2022, 18:39:51
The Zenbook Flip 15 is back with 12th gen Intel Core H CPUs and the new Intel Arc A370M GPU to replace last year's Core U options and the GeForce GTX 1650 Max-Q, respectively. While CPU performance is insanely fast for a convertible, perhaps the GeForce MX550 would have been the better move.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Arc-A370M-debut-Asus-ZenBook-Flip-15-Q539ZD-2-in-1-review.631130.0.html