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Posted by RobertJasiek
 - June 21, 2022, 08:07:20
"an average Nvidia GPU, while still seeing a price drop, is selling for 2% more than the MSRP"

3DCenter has regularly published its forged statistics and every tech webpage repeats them. While the numbers themselves are not forged, their presentation in the statistics is a forgery of meaning of what the numbers represent and how they are interpreted.

They measure in Germany but reports write "in Europe".

They measure German prices with German VAT but relate to MSRPs in the USA without VAT.

They do not account the German VAT change from 16 to 19% on 2021-01-01.

They hide the hidden MSRP changes on 2021-01-01 before VAT.

They do not mention that some models, such as the Founders Edition increased their MSRPs in the second half of 2021.

By only referring to MSRPs (in the USA, without VAT) of the Founders Edition, they do not mention that every model has its own MSRP.

They do not mention that German MSRPs with German VATs (and MSRPs in various other European countries) cannot be derived from MSRPs in the USA without VAT by simple currency conversion (at MSRP launch dates) and VAT accounting.

When buying in Germany, what matters is how actual prices compare to German MSRPs (and especially the initial German MSRPs) - it hardly matters how they compare to MSRPs in the USA.

They mostly measure the cheapest model at any time while all other models can be more expensive and some are much more expensive. In most cases, the cheapest models are weakly build models that most non-mining consumers avoid according to Mindfactory sale number statistics. Therefore, the measured models have little meaning for prices of models of intermediate to good quality.

There have been RTX 3000 cards with reasonable MSRPs (such as RTX 3080 10GB) and other cards with greedy MSRPs (such as RTX 3080 TI, 3090, 3090 TI) or missing MSRPs but greedy launch street prices (RTX 3080 12 GB). The effect of the overpriced MSRP cards is that the average of prices relative to MSRPs over all cards is much lower it would be if only measuring the reasonably priced cards.

Similarly, there have been low end RTX 3000 cards with greedy MSRPs relative to their specifications. The prices of such cards have dropped faster to or below their MSRPs further lowering the average and contributing to the false impression of prices of RTX 3000 core models: 3060 TI, 3070, 3080 10GB. cards that everybody would want because of their good speed / efficiency per price ratios of the Ampere generation.

They do not mention that non-LHR to LHR has been a functional devaluation of the cards.

They neglect devaluation due to time passed since launch. Meanwhile, German prices should be 20% below initial German MSRPs with initial VAT. This should be so because electronics with central chips (CPUs, GPUs, APUs) tend to have such price levels 21 months after launches.

While the statistics's average claims 2% above MSRP (in the USA, without VAT), the reality is lowest current German prices with German VAT of, e.g., RTX 3080 10GB LHR are about 15.9% - 32.5% above MSRPs, where 15.9% is for only one model at only place (Ebay) from a retailer (MMS E-Commerce GmbH under the face name Saturn) known to have so terrible business practice (such as letting me prepay for an RTX 3080 10GB non-LHR but never selling the card) that it is pending at courts. If only less unreputable sellers are considered, current prices start around 22% above MSRPs.

When the statistics claims 2% above MSRP, this suggests that one could buy an RTX 3080 10GB, whose initial German MSRP with VAT was €699 (for non-LHR), at €712.98 (LHR). The reality is at least €809.99 (the weak model from the dubious retailer) or €859 = 22.9% above initial German MSRP (a different weak model from a meh retailer). Good models from at least one mediocre to good retailer are from 28.6% to 32.5%.

20% below MSRPs is were prices should be, the statistics claims 2% above MSRPs, the reality is 15.9% - 32.5% above MSRPs for the interesting model RTX 3080 10GB (but only with LHR), similar for RTX 3070 and I think even more for RTX 3060 TI.

Do not spread statistics that lie! Instead, study actual prices and compare them to initial German MSRPs! Study different models and note that they have different MSRPs! Do not hide facts of devaluation (time passed since launch, LHR)!
Posted by Redaktion
 - June 21, 2022, 01:18:30
3DCenter has published another of its 3-week analysis reports of the GPU market in Europe. According to the latest entry, the average price of an AMD GPU has dropped 8% below MSRP for the first time. Nvidia boards, while not under MSRP yet, have also witnessed a sharp price decline.