This is utter nonsense, I have a UK spec EV6 GT Line and I regularly get 310+ miles form a full charge and this includes motorway driving at 65/70mph, rest is in town. Using I-pedal in town at speeds of under 40mph and auto regen for faster driving. Car actually shows 330+ miles while at 100% charge. In winter this drops to 295 miles with heating on!. Granted, the faster you go, the less miles you have, so don't drive like a twat.

These idiot car reviewers do not know how to even use EVs and they are treating them as they were petrol/diesel cars. Do your homework before writing such garbage.

Driving in cold enough weather to have the hear and seat warmers on should be cold enough that the efficiency of the battery drops significantly. Anyone who knows anything about EVs should know that. Also driving at 80 KPH rather than 80 MPH is how the tests are actually done so yeah it makes sense the person didn't come near. I'm curious if big oil sponsored this post...

Come on notebookcheck, you're better than this, copypasta of a German article that was copypasta-ing a French article in the first place?

Also the premise is nonsense. "EV driven fast does not get mileage from mixed-use test cycle". This is not news.

Weak hitjob.
Learn how to drive. I.can get 550km real km from Kona with a much smaller battery, so puh-lease. One test is not the truth.

First WLTP standards are not just driving at 80mph, you should first lay out what WLTP stand for and the tests they do before going craze on it not meeting the standard.

Being an ev driver already I can tell you using heated or cooling seat does not use much battery ac does but if there a heat source pump that is better.
Road testers should use cars like a normal person would. These consumption test are useless we currently have hyundia kona and we are getting over 300 Miles to a full battery charge during sinter either heating znd ac on I fo not hyper driver or any of that rubbish I drive  for enjoyment.  200 is disappointing. We have had a kv6 for aweek if I drive it normally with a mixture of motorway and town traffic we have been getting 260 mile but I never gone to zero I still had 5% charge.
What we have notice is the cars without the heat pump use more power to heat the cargo his Wlpt really needs to be looked at as its not real
Our other car is a hybrid  and it never gets anywhere near the mpg
You need to look at what owners are getting .
The ev6 air got better distance than GTline version. But we need real drivers to show these issues don't apologise for using ac

There's nothing new here. I've gotten 270 miles on my Niro EV in summer, even with AC. It's EPA rated for 259. In the northern winter with heat I struggle to get 215.

This is well known and documented and the fact that this "test" is being used as scientific is weird. I do agree, EVs should have miles/kWh ratings, and the ratings should list: At 75°F, at 32°F, with AC, with Heat. That should help even out expectations and also start to see who is truly running efficient systems.

To be fair a lot of gas car MPG ratings are BS too

For what it's worth I have had no problem hitting the rated 275 miles per charge in my ev6 AWD.

Quote from: Joe Black on March 29, 2022, 07:44:51
Yeah, buyers need to take account these things into the equation as well + the manufacturers are simply lying about the range.

Historically, the problem in the EU is that the test is slow and mellow. WLTP is better but still not great. Most people simply don't drive that way, at least around here. And it's performed in great if not ideal conditions. Up to this point, it's not lying. But we need to understand what kind of impact it has. Consider that turning air-conditioning on in a conventional car can prevent engine from stopping when stationary (because it has a belt-driven compressor) which would have significant impact on test results. But it has such a range and refuels so fast that it's not really a consideration. They leave it off for the test and nobody really cares as the fuel consumption is normal, just not as good as the test suggests. What does annoy me is fuel tanks getting smaller to save weight of all things. I have no clue how much energy the air-conditioning takes. And in winter, heat comes for free. But in an electric car, it can really add up and significantly reduce range. Just consider the effect of rims. Never before have I considered it, I just chose what looks good. You need range to be careless about such things. :-) And air-source heat pumps are not awesome when temperatures drop significantly below zero. That's why you use a ground-source pump in a house.

Quote from: ariliquin on March 29, 2022, 00:21:28
Given that AC, heating and electronics are all powered by the battery, enabling or disabling these has a significant effect. A standard for testing EV needs to be developed to ensure a level playing field and that consumers understand the limits of the test results and legislation can be put in place to protect consumers.

Yeah, buyers need to take account these things into the equation as well + the manufacturers are simply lying about the range.

If a potential EV buyer wants the best possible range, they should have started with a simple question - does it have a heat pump?
If so, where can they find a test for summer and winter with measured power consumption in kWh/100.

What matters the most is efficiency, and a lot of EVs have laughably bad efficiency.

Given that AC, heating and electronics are all powered by the battery, enabling or disabling these has a significant effect. A standard for testing EV needs to be developed to ensure a level playing field and that consumers understand the limits of the test results and legislation can be put in place to protect consumers.