Quote from: WaitWhat on March 28, 2022, 09:54:50
This just shows how fucked up Elon is.
It makes zero economical and ecological sense to use nuclear power in a time where non-damaging, no risk sources of energy are 8-10 times cheaper. Thinking that nuclear is "clean cheap green energy" is rather the ancient view.
Arrogant hypocritical dickhead!

TBH, I am not some fan of Elon, but I do not think he's wrong here.
Even through nuclear power is far from clean, green, good idea in a long run ... it's pretty much the only band ait solution that make sense right now.
It's not a good, final solution, but it's better than coal or oil, and it's faster to implement than solar/wind/etc.
Bad solution, but better than other, faster alternative.

Quote from: WaitWhat on March 28, 2022, 09:54:50
It makes zero economical and ecological sense to use nuclear power in a time where non-damaging, no risk sources of energy are 8-10 times cheaper. Thinking that nuclear is "clean cheap green energy" is rather the ancient view.

Instead, Germans will be reopening their coal plants. That makes a load of "economical and ecological sense," doesn't it. AFAIK they already did it last year to avoid crashing the EU grid when wind wasn't behaving. How wonderful that we can burn more coal. New wind and solar plants are a mid-term strategy. It takes time to build them, although it's far shorter than building new nuclear (but recommissioning ought to be faster still). And there is a question of how much more can the Germans with their infrastructure add. What they already have is causing problems and EU-wide blackout is a very real possibility at this point (it was a too close of a call too many times lately for my comfort from what I was told). They can't even transfer the energy from their wind farms through Germany, they have to rely on the grids of other countries to supply their own territory with their own energy. As much as I often like Germans, their energy policy is a big screw-up and it puts stress on the relations within the EU. The hidden cost of renewables is the infrastructure which is not priced-in.

Costs differ plant to plant, but our nuclear power plants produce electricity at a fraction of the market price, cheaper than operational solar AFAIK. Which really annoys our politicians and citizens as we made the right strategic decisions, we payed for them and now we have to pay the same ridiculous electricity prices as the silly Germans because of single energy market. I don't know how reopening a power plant works out, but by far the largest cost in a nuclear power plant is the sunken cost of building it together with the cost of financing the construction. Fuel costs peanuts and the cost of raw uranium doesn't have much impact on it as a big chunk of the cost is for processing.

This just shows how fucked up Elon is.
It makes zero economical and ecological sense to use nuclear power in a time where non-damaging, no risk sources of energy are 8-10 times cheaper. Thinking that nuclear is "clean cheap green energy" is rather the ancient view.
Arrogant hypocritical dickhead!