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Posted by Vasaller Museumet
 - November 09, 2021, 09:31:29
Quote from: Akshay Kumar on November 08, 2021, 18:09:56
People are forgetting Apple silicons are still arm based chips. They still are struggling with many apps compatibility. Many apps run on emulation mode further degrading the performance. Seems like apple was unable to carry on its last year's win. RIP Apple.

Trolling?
Posted by Akshay Kumar
 - November 08, 2021, 18:09:56
People are forgetting Apple silicons are still arm based chips. They still are struggling with many apps compatibility. Many apps run on emulation mode further degrading the performance. Seems like apple was unable to carry on its last year's win. RIP Apple.
Posted by systemBuilder22
 - November 07, 2021, 16:47:44
There is a third problem with Intel 129xx and 126xx chips!  PAPER LAUNCH!  In recent years whenever Intel claimed the crown in performance they shipped zero chips to customers!  They only shipped samples to reviewers!  We shall see if intel can make any of these beastly fast processors - I am betting they just can't make more than a few samples!
Posted by Rob Stan
 - November 07, 2021, 16:35:41
Quote from: JayN on November 07, 2021, 14:36:02
I believe the anandtech article also said that Intel knocked 50W off their Rocket Lake's max power while beating its performance ... so, Intel is headed in the right direction. 

Intel has their Intel-4 process Meteor Lake powered on in the lab, according to recent presentation.  That process/shrink will be more comparable to the tsm N5 that apple is currently using, so the power margin will narrow.  It remains to be seen what apple can do on performance/power when moving to pcie5, ddr5 outside the package.

Depends on the task, in some workloads, it peaks a good amount over Rocket Lake. Either way, their 10nm/Intel 7 process doesn't seem very power efficient. Tiger Lake has already shown this for a year now.

As for the next one, yeah, sure, comparable to TSMC N5... but by 2023 (supposedly when Intel wants to launch Meteor Lake) Apple will be shipping N3 chips, maybe even AMD as well (Zen5, Turin).
Posted by JayN
 - November 07, 2021, 14:36:02
I believe the anandtech article also said that Intel knocked 50W off their Rocket Lake's max power while beating its performance ... so, Intel is headed in the right direction. 

Intel has their Intel-4 process Meteor Lake powered on in the lab, according to recent presentation.  That process/shrink will be more comparable to the tsm N5 that apple is currently using, so the power margin will narrow.  It remains to be seen what apple can do on performance/power when moving to pcie5, ddr5 outside the package.
Posted by Redaktion
 - November 07, 2021, 10:21:32
The Intel Core i9-12900K and Intel Core i5-12600K have become the new leaders of the PassMark CPU Mark desktop single-thread performance chart. The Alder Lake processors managed to overcome the wall of Apple M1 chips that previously headed the table, and both the power-hungry i9-12900K and i5-12600K reached scores of over 4,000 points.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Power-guzzling-Intel-Core-i9-12900K-and-i5-12600K-smash-through-Apple-M1-barrier-in-PassMark-s-desktop-CPU-single-thread-benchmark.577716.0.html