Quote from: NikoB on July 27, 2021, 13:34:11
Intel is gradually turning from an industry leader into a disgrace and a laughing stock of the industry ...

Ok, AMD fanboy.

Intel is gradually turning from an industry leader into a disgrace and a laughing stock of the industry ...

Intel 4 will have 192 EU iGPU, when normally can reach an agreement with nVidia to put old 16nm TSMC GTX 1080Ti and get space for GDDR5 to introduce a good GPU instead of their VGA, (that is still under development) and not yet in the market.

96 EU is a GTX1050 3GB

192EU will be GTX 1060 6GB... in 2024 but they gave space for the die of a GTX 1080Ti ...

Quote from: _MT_ on July 27, 2021, 07:35:30

Quote from: Patrick P. Gelsinger on July 27, 2021, 06:38:27
So 10 is now 7, and 7 is now 4, and Winston Churchill is a carrot. Bravo!

It looks like an alignment with TSMC's nomenclature. 10 nm Intel is counterpart to 7 nm TSMC. And 7 nm Intel was expected to slot somewhere between 3 and 5 nm TSMC.

I think most people familiar with processors and process tech knew that Intel's processes were superior - Intel's 22nm was better than TSMC and Samsung's 16nm, their 14nm was better than TSMC and Samsung's 10-8nm, and so forth.

I'd also say it's fair to call 10nm ESF comparable with TSMC 7nm, now they're done fixing it up. It wouldn't have been before though, which is why this has become a necessary step for them.

Similarly, 7nm is *predicted* to be between 5nm and 3nm, but the OG Intel 10nm was supposed to clobber TSMC on power and density 7nm until it didn't, and it continued not to until their 4th go around (10, 10+, 10SF, 10ESF) - so I will be very interested to see how their first go at 7nm / "4" looks. Fingers crossed they're back on track.

Quote from: Patrick P. Gelsinger on July 27, 2021, 06:38:27
So 10 is now 7, and 7 is now 4, and Winston Churchill is a carrot. Bravo!

It looks like an alignment with TSMC's nomenclature. 10 nm Intel is counterpart to 7 nm TSMC. And 7 nm Intel was expected to slot somewhere between 3 and 5 nm TSMC. Intel was more conservative in their naming and many people miss the fact that they are just not the same numbers which has negative marketing implications for Intel.

So 10 is now 7, and 7 is now 4, and Winston Churchill is a carrot. Bravo!