Looks fantastic. The fact that you can get these chips today in a cheap, powerful, and portable laptop like the Asus TUF series is unbelievable to me. Well done Intel.

Quote from: ariliquin on May 19, 2021, 13:23:01
What is being compared here is old AMD generation verses latest Intel generation. Refresh across AMD product line is due soon and then again AMD will move forward another step. What Intel is able to achieve given their constraints is amazing, however it absolutely cannot compete on performance to power consumption, so loses data centre and laptop. When Intel can compete on same terms as TSMC it will be great for consumers. Currently it will fall farther behind overall, no matter how clever their packaging is.

Dumb^^ new gen AMD :)

What is really dumb is people in the comments saying its old gen AMD LOL. Its literally their latest mobile processors

Well, you get an AMD 5900 based gaming laptop for the same price as a 11800, so I don't see the competition ;)

Quote from: ariliquin on May 19, 2021, 13:23:01
What is being compared here is old AMD generation verses latest Intel generation. Refresh across AMD product line is due soon and then again AMD will move forward another step.

There is always something on the horizon. It's funny to call it old and about to be replaced when it's barely available and has been on the market since when, March or something like that for the first model? Tiger Lake is certainly older. It's unfortunate that it took so long for them to release H-series processors.

Tiger Lake H45 seems to have slightly higher power consumption than AMD Ryzen 5000 series for similar performance but given the platform benefits - Thunderbolt 4, PCIe 4 and more USB 3 Gen 2 ports (10 Gbps), instead of Gen 1 (5 Gbps), I'd take Intel again. The HEVC encoder of QuickSync in 11th gen is also very decent quality at around 3-4 Mbps bitrate and fast.

A laptop performance comparison, WITH BATTARY life, is the most meaningful comparison for mobile CPU.

Intel's latest CPUs are a drain on battery and effectively and practically underperforming. Intel's boost clocks are really for FEW SECONDS, until thermal blocks it. Boost clock frequency is a DISGUISED bragging rights with no practical benefits.

What is being compared here is old AMD generation verses latest Intel generation. Refresh across AMD product line is due soon and then again AMD will move forward another step. What Intel is able to achieve given their constraints is amazing, however it absolutely cannot compete on performance to power consumption, so loses data centre and laptop. When Intel can compete on same terms as TSMC it will be great for consumers. Currently it will fall farther behind overall, no matter how clever their packaging is.

All I'm reading looks like scared AMD fanboy drivel .
Even being a AMD fan it's good to see Intel give AMD a run for their money.
Competition is good

Quote from: An0n on May 19, 2021, 09:56:29
The difference is barely noticeable in daily usage. Power consumption for Intel will be higher since it uses inferior manufacturing process (10nm), thus. of course, AMD wins in power per watt.

What makes it inferior? I am not saying it isn't but you can't just compare the numbers (10 vs. 7). Nowadays, they are pretty much meaningless. What Intel is going to call 7 nm has no relation to what TSMC calls 7 nm. It's just a name.

When it comes to daily light use, a huge factor is power management. That's why Tiger Lake laptops can offer competitive numbers in the web browsing test. And it's not just what the processor can do. You are dealing with such small numbers that a small error in a driver can trash your results. Efficiency of the node itself shows better in high load situations.

Not an apple to apples comparison if nothing is said about Form factor/cooling system.

The difference is barely noticeable in daily usage. Power consumption for Intel will be higher since it uses inferior manufacturing process (10nm), thus. of course, AMD wins in power per watt.

Just glad to see Intel is finally back on its feet. Healthy competition always makes consumer happy.

And consumes twice as much power to. Go read Anandtech's article before posting misleading articles as always. They do proper in-depth analysis unlike rumours and leaks that you publish. Shameless!

with good cooling, tigerlake is better, no matter how you wanna spin it.
also, cpuz is not the best benchmark for a cpu, maybe SPEC.

it all depends on pricing, cooling and noise if tigerlake will be the choice or not for gamers, but in games i saw that zen 3 has an advantage.