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Posted by H
 - October 13, 2021, 23:17:48
I'm sure MacBooks are better in many ways.

Their touchscreen functionality needs a bit of work, though.
Posted by Muhammad Anhar
 - May 25, 2021, 05:40:49
Quote from: GeneraISoybeans on April 28, 2021, 04:18:02
I don't think Microsoft is taking their laptops seriously. Seriously, no thunderbolt on the Intel model? And no changes to the chassis since the surface laptop 1? Either the surface group over at Microsoft needs more funding to give it a chassis overhaul, or Microsoft should simply stop making laptops. Apple stepped up their game with the M1, and this is Microsoft's response to it. They should be ashamed.

Microsoft doesn't want to have more advantage over their OEM partners, albeit they could done it.
Posted by ashlol
 - April 28, 2021, 17:37:01
I agree that surfaceconnect port is not standardized versus TB3 usb-c but for microsoft users like me which own already the surface dock it is the same connector since the beginning and have TB3 performance so I don't complain, since I'm able to continue to use my surface dock and connect my old surface pro or this new surface laptop on it and still display cristal clear 4k 60Hz image on my external 4k monitor.
The advantage is that you have an equivalent connector to TB3 even on amd version where no other brand have it versus usb 3.1 gen2 which have not enough bandwidth to display 4k 60Hz shame on all brand to not put a TB3 connector on amd laptop.
About power throttling issues only i7 version has it since the i7 is too power hungry for the cooling it was real bad versions. i5 is plenty enough of power for almost everybody anyways.
You all may not like it but it is comparable to apple product which are the same every year with there own connector (lightning)
They are indeed overpriced that's why i buy them only on discount same as apple product in fact overpriced.
Posted by GeneraISoybeans
 - April 28, 2021, 04:18:02
I don't think Microsoft is taking their laptops seriously. Seriously, no thunderbolt on the Intel model? And no changes to the chassis since the surface laptop 1? Either the surface group over at Microsoft needs more funding to give it a chassis overhaul, or Microsoft should simply stop making laptops. Apple stepped up their game with the M1, and this is Microsoft's response to it. They should be ashamed.
Posted by Ayoh
 - April 28, 2021, 00:34:13
Classic surface, severely overpriced and underpowered with severe power throttling. I'm a user of the surface book 3 and am sick of it, it has constantly CPU throttling issues and is very slow. Trying an M1 Macbook pro at the moment and the performance is night and day. It is so much faster and the battery last twice as long. Microsoft needs to fire some managers in the surface line for putting out half baked crap year after year
Posted by Eric
 - April 27, 2021, 23:59:39
From the introduction:

"As in the Surface Laptop 3 it also uses a custom AMS chip,"
Posted by Redaktion
 - April 27, 2021, 22:35:03
Microsoft presents the 4th generation of the Surface laptop, again offering the larger 15-inch model also with a special AMD Ryzen processor besides the Intel-CPUs. Otherwise nothing much has changed, and Microsoft continues to forgo modern connections such as Thunderbolt.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Laptop-4-15-laptop-review-New-AMD-processor-and-more-endurance.535914.0.html