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Posted by BIG-DAVE
 - March 19, 2021, 14:11:19
Quote from: _MT_ on March 18, 2021, 11:19:47
But since Nvidia released mining cards and the real bottleneck is manufacturing, what they're really getting is the ability to control the split. The distribution between mining and the rest. And the opportunity to exploit different pricing.

Nvidia don't want miners reselling their cards at cheap prices when crypto crashes, they'd rather have their cards go to landfill.
Posted by _MT_
 - March 18, 2021, 11:19:47
But since Nvidia released mining cards and the real bottleneck is manufacturing, what they're really getting is the ability to control the split. The distribution between mining and the rest. And the opportunity to exploit different pricing.
Posted by _MT_
 - March 18, 2021, 11:15:48
So, in theory, miners should get screwed and gamers should be happy (as they should stand a better chance of purchasing a card).
Posted by _MT_
 - March 18, 2021, 11:11:46
Quote from: wtf on March 17, 2021, 17:15:22
Why does nvidia think them throttling their own products is going to win them any favors or sympathy? Like the poster below im not invested in this, other than being an occasional casual gamer. But if someone purchased these cards with an intent to mine with it, more power to them. Mining crypto isnt illegal ffs

Just on principle this pushes me towards AMD.
While we can question the real motives (Nvidia is there to make profit) and effectiveness (they're manufacturing constrained), the idea is that if a card is manufactured for gaming, it will actually be available to gamers. You're cutting miners from the competition for those cards, increasing availability to the remaining parties. That's the theory.
Posted by gQx
 - March 18, 2021, 07:31:21
"playing both sides so I always come out on top"  >:D
Posted by wtf
 - March 17, 2021, 17:15:22
Why does nvidia think them throttling their own products is going to win them any favors or sympathy? Like the poster below im not invested in this, other than being an occasional casual gamer. But if someone purchased these cards with an intent to mine with it, more power to them. Mining crypto isnt illegal ffs

Just on principle this pushes me towards AMD.
Posted by _MT_
 - March 17, 2021, 17:05:03
Why would it have to break the so called "secure handshake"? The BIOS is original and driver is genuine. I imagine this "handshake" is supposed to protect against unauthorised alterations. But it shows that either driver can disable the limiter directly, or that the card features a mode in which limiter is disabled. The difference is who checks whether conditions for this special mode are met.
Posted by ItsAShame
 - March 17, 2021, 16:29:37
Limiting the capabilities of the card (whatever the reason) if a f***ing shame!
I have no stake in this as I'm not a gamer and I don't mine cryptos, but I will think twice before buying any NVIDIA product in the future...
When I buy a product, I intend to freely use it to the best of its capabilities.
Posted by Redaktion
 - March 17, 2021, 14:18:37
It turns out that disabling the ETH hash rate limiter on the GeForce RTX 3060 is as simple as installing a GeForce development driver that NVIDIA published on its website. NVIDIA has admitted that the driver removes the limiter, contrary to claims that a secure handshake existed between multiple elements. Unfortunately for NVIDIA, the driver remains freely available to download.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-attempts-to-close-the-stable-door-after-the-horse-has-bolted-by-pulling-GeForce-driver-that-disables-crypto-mining-limiter-for-the-GeForce-RTX-3060.528005.0.html