Quote from: P. Bm. on February 04, 2021, 09:52:05
Ryzen 3000 is NOT cheap. Not even in the US.
They've strained their 7nm contract so much, I'm surprised we even get ANY scraps in the EMEA, - let alone the current gen. The shelves stand empty here.
Flagship Phenom II X6 launched @ $250 in 2010. They're now asking $300 for the middle-end 5600X, which somehow translates to $388 in Moscow. That's without the cooler.

Amazing - you disproved your own point without realising:

1) $250 in 2010 is equivalent to $297 in 2020, so it's basically the same price for a 6-core CPU - only the Phenom II X6 1100T CPU actually launched at $265, so by that standard, they're selling equivalent tech for less money. Nice.

2) The 1100T was a refresh of the $295 1090T CPU, so it wasn't even brand-new at the arbitrary date you chose for comparison - unlike the Ryzen 5000 series.

3) Why not factor in how AMD's Phenom II X6 "flagship" actually compared to the real flagship CPU of 2010 - the i7 980X, a $1000 offering. Spoiler alert - Intel were wiping the floor with AMD at this point, and it only got worse when Sandy Bridge launched in 2011.

If you're going to whine about prices, at least make some sense when you do it. AMD are currently occupying the same price-premium slot Intel did when they were market leader - that's how a duopoly works. The supply situation works, but all you have to do is *not buy something right now* to avoid getting ripped off.

Ryzen 3000 is NOT cheap. Not even in the US.
They've strained their 7nm contract so much, I'm surprised we even get ANY scraps in the EMEA, - let alone the current gen. The shelves stand empty here.
Flagship Phenom II X6 launched @ $250 in 2010. They're now asking $300 for the middle-end 5600X, which somehow translates to $388 in Moscow. That's without the cooler.