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Posted by vertigo
 - February 01, 2021, 18:53:52
Quote from: Dan Ridenhour on February 01, 2021, 17:53:57
I understand the need for a processor bump...   Samsung released their flagship tablets then Apple released their mid range iPad Air with the A14 blowing it away performance wise.    Throw in Samsungs penchant for 16:10 aspect and you ended up with the $599 air being compared to the $999 S7+... and the S7+ really didn't bring anything to the table to make that comparison all that favorable.   The new iPad air pros will be coming in a couple months which will only make the samsungs look more dated.   

That said, I don't think a mere processor bump will be enough and they will still need to aggressively price like they did before Christmas if they want to move product.   

Pesonally I hate apple and have a Galaxy Tab S4.   I was looking forward to the S7+ for its larger 120hz amoled.   But the new air screen is just as wide with newer / faster hardware and a more extensive pro app selection... for hundreds less.   As I said, I hate apple so if the air kept me from buying an S7+ you can bet its stopped others.

Exactly. While a processor upgrade may have been "needed" to match it up spec-wise with the competition, it was actually needed and keeping the price where it is will mean it won't matter. They need to lower the price substantially to compete, not do a meaningless upgrade and keep the price the same. A tablet shouldn't cost as much as a laptop with a full-fledged OS.

I hate Apple as well--though I hate Google and MS, too, and greatly dislike Samsung, so it's more degrees of hatred--and even I have considered going with an iPhone before. There were many reasons for me not to, and they all weighed in on my decision, but the only thing that really stopped me is the lack of customization and abilities compared to Android. Most people are not at all like me in these respects. Most people either don't have a preference or even like or love Apple, and most people use their phones and tablets for very basic stuff like web browsing with a few tabs open, calling/texting, and social media. In other words, most people a) don't need or even care about the super-duper latest and greatest processor, b) can do what they need equally well on an Apple or Android device, and c) are going to prefer the one that's cheaper, not to mention known for better long-term support.

Samsung has let their phone and tablet prices get out of hand and their top-tier stuff just doesn't have the same value as many others. Even their mid-tier is frankly too much for what it is. Of course, lots of people will still buy it, just like lots of people rush to buy the latest iDevice just because it's Apple and it's new, but they really need to step up their game to compete against Apple, not to mention all the Chinese brands that are growing every year.

That said, every Samsung device I've owned or used has had incredibly stupid design decisions, combining great hardware with terribly designed software and firmware, so I won't buy another one of their products unless there's nothing else remotely close. So I don't really care what they do as far as hardware upgrades or pricing except for offering more competition.
Posted by Dan Ridenhour
 - February 01, 2021, 17:53:57
I understand the need for a processor bump...   Samsung released their flagship tablets then Apple released their mid range iPad Air with the A14 blowing it away performance wise.    Throw in Samsungs penchant for 16:10 aspect and you ended up with the $599 air being compared to the $999 S7+... and the S7+ really didn't bring anything to the table to make that comparison all that favorable.   The new iPad air pros will be coming in a couple months which will only make the samsungs look more dated.   

That said, I don't think a mere processor bump will be enough and they will still need to aggressively price like they did before Christmas if they want to move product.   

Pesonally I hate apple and have a Galaxy Tab S4.   I was looking forward to the S7+ for its larger 120hz amoled.   But the new air screen is just as wide with newer / faster hardware and a more extensive pro app selection... for hundreds less.   As I said, I hate apple so if the air kept me from buying an S7+ you can bet its stopped others.
Posted by vertigo
 - February 01, 2021, 15:54:21
Quote from: Starbuck_77 on February 01, 2021, 03:23:27
Euhm... is this really necessary? My S7+ runs One UI 3.1 already and is snappy as f*ck, definitely fast enough for everything i throw at it. This seems a rather waste of an upgrade.

I'm still using an S2, and even that is still fast and does most of what I need. The only reasons I even want to upgrade are for USB-C, so I can use the same chargers (without adapters), better codec support (HEVC and AV1), and better Wi-Fi, though I've seen lots of reports of the newer models having connectivity issues, which is the main reason I haven't upgraded. And I prefer the 8" size of my S2, and don't want one of the new massive ones (may be smaller ones I haven't seen, since I didn't look that long before running across the Wi-Fi issues).

They have to do something to "justify" a new model and pretend they're staying cutting edge and deserving of the asking price. Considering this is the only change, I don't think it's right to act like at least "their prices are now not expected to change either." The price should come down to be more accessible and competitive, but Sammy apparently doesn't want to do that, so they'd rather do a useless upgrade and keep charging the same crazy amount. More and more like Apple.
Posted by Starbuck_77
 - February 01, 2021, 03:23:27
Euhm... is this really necessary? My S7+ runs One UI 3.1 already and is snappy as f*ck, definitely fast enough for everything i throw at it. This seems a rather waste of an upgrade.
Posted by HelloThere
 - January 31, 2021, 20:01:27
Well time to stay with my S6 for another year....
Posted by terreror
 - January 31, 2021, 18:26:35
"The Galaxy Tab S8 generation is expected to once again have vanilla and Plus versions. The former is now predicted to have an 11-inch FHD+ LCD display - same as the Galaxy Tab S7."

The Tab S7, 11-inch is 2560x1600...Far from FHD+...
Posted by wersy2
 - January 31, 2021, 18:20:55
LCD? WTF, Sammy!?
Posted by Redaktion
 - January 31, 2021, 17:36:12
A YouTube-based tipster has asserted that successors to the premium Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 and S7+ slates are on the way. However, it seems they will be not much more than Snapdragon 888-powered versions of those 2020 models. Then again, their prices are now not expected to change either.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S8-series-is-an-iterative-Snapdragon-888-powered-upgrade-over-the-S7s.517738.0.html