@TrumpLiedFreedomDied: You don't need USB/TB 4 for a webcam.

Dear Asus, can you please add webcams in all your performance laptops?

I guess I have to reluctantly take the Lenovo Legion or ThinkPad series or wait another year until USB+TB 4 become a standard...

A 4-core CPUs in a flagship gaming laptop? In 2021? What a joke.

Probably, buying a 4-core laptop in 2021 is not very future-proof, especially considering gaming on it. Maybe good enough for the office, but then why would you bother with CPU power at all?

Quote from: DigiMan on January 27, 2021, 05:00:35
  :) PC newbie here. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Based on the benchmarks it seems this intel 10nm is very close or just as good as AMDs 7nm and only lacks in mulitcore performance/applications.

-is it safe to assume intel's 8 core H CPU will match or maybe beat AMDs?

-what will be the downsides of intel's 8 core H Vs AMDs?

Thanks

First of all, forget about that silly marketing "nanometers". They don't exactly mean any physical parameter nowadays, more marketing. Intel's "10nm" are the same or even denser packed than TSMC's "7nm". So don't expect any huge room for improvement here from Intel in the nearest future.

Architecture-wise, currently, Cezanne is more interesting. It has better scaling in means of core/power/consumption. It seems to scale better with more cores than Tiger Lake. 8-core Tiger Lake will be either hotter or less efficient than Cezanne - you would see.

But, as for me, 6/12 CPU is just fine for a multipurpose laptop in 2021. Games scale pretty well with 6/12, and, at the same time, it's not as hot or a power hog as 8/16.

yep, Tiger Lake-H with 8 cores will be competitive with Ryzen 5000H series (looking at H35 and what we heard). Will be interesting how the energy consumption is and of course implementation. With Tiger Lake you got the advantage of integrated Thunderbolt 4 (and also partly Wi-Fi that saves power). Only the U-segment will be limited to 4 cores with Intel, so AMD will maintain its multi-thread advantage in this segment (28W class).

Quote from: DigiMan on January 27, 2021, 05:00:35
-is it safe to assume intel's 8 core H CPU will match or maybe beat AMDs?

-what will be the downsides of intel's 8 core H Vs AMDs?

The potential will be there. The big question is how efficient they'll be under load. As that will impact how difficult it is to cool and how long it will be able to maintain high boost. If a processor is difficult to cool, only a few machines will realize the potential. That was the biggest weakness of previous 6 and 8 core mobile processors from Intel. And also the pricing. This really depends on laptop manufacturers. Many liked to heavily mark-up the 8 core Intel processors. By hundreds of dollars. Which made them really poor value. If they continue doing it with Intel and not with AMD, AMD will give you much better value.

  :) PC newbie here. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Based on the benchmarks it seems this intel 10nm is very close or just as good as AMDs 7nm and only lacks in mulitcore performance/applications.

-is it safe to assume intel's 8 core H CPU will match or maybe beat AMDs?

-what will be the downsides of intel's 8 core H Vs AMDs?

Thanks

There is simply just no reason to buy a Tiger Lake H35 CPU now.

Quote from: xpclient on January 26, 2021, 21:52:00
Tiger Lake-H 35W feels like belonging more to the 15W-28W category. Poor showing from Intel.

They're i7 Tiger-Lake U-series chips with higher configurable TDP values, so that should be expected. The 45W Tiger-Lake chips will be the ones that bring extra cores/threads.

Tiger Lake-H 35W feels like belonging more to the 15W-28W category. Poor showing from Intel.