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Posted by Hunter
 - May 13, 2021, 06:40:27
Quote from: xpclient on December 21, 2020, 14:19:47
Quote from: Spunjji on December 21, 2020, 10:34:48
I can never really tell whether there are sincere people out there who are just genuinely really vocal about these niche requirements, or if Intel are still paying people to go out there and barf a list of features that AMD don't have and say "this is why I'm not buying", over and over, on every topic.
I can't tell either if AMD pays all these shills to take a dump on Intel in every processor post and put out the same vomit and hatred on how Intel is doomed or dead despite leading most of the time against AMD historically.
Yes but the fact of the matter is it's clear we're repeating history here but this time in amds favour. Intel has been releasing processor line after processor line yet every single one just disappoints over and over again. They can't even bring competition let alone a compelling buy in any form factor. I hate to break it to you but most likely intel isn't going to recover for the next few years as AMD will dominate the laptop and pc marketplace.
Posted by iamnotthatdave
 - January 25, 2021, 09:35:19
"But they ignore Thunderbolt"

Like if they have a choice, if Intel does not open up with their patents.Until then, AMD has to wait till USB4 is around.
Posted by xpclient
 - December 21, 2020, 14:19:47
Quote from: Spunjji on December 21, 2020, 10:34:48
I can never really tell whether there are sincere people out there who are just genuinely really vocal about these niche requirements, or if Intel are still paying people to go out there and barf a list of features that AMD don't have and say "this is why I'm not buying", over and over, on every topic.
I can't tell either if AMD pays all these shills to take a dump on Intel in every processor post and put out the same vomit and hatred on how Intel is doomed or dead despite leading most of the time against AMD historically.
Posted by Spunjji
 - December 21, 2020, 10:34:48
Quote from: xpclient on December 17, 2020, 01:57:31
If AMD get their act together for integrated graphics in the video area (Video Core Next) upping HEVC quality massively and with B-frames, supporting AV1 etc), then I will be happy with an AMD U-series laptop too, preferably one with USB-C power delivery.

But they ignore Thunderbolt and HQ video encoding/decoding with GPU market.

I can never really tell whether there are sincere people out there who are just genuinely really vocal about these niche requirements, or if Intel are still paying people to go out there and barf a list of features that AMD don't have and say "this is why I'm not buying", over and over, on every topic.
Posted by Astar
 - December 17, 2020, 18:10:48
"Decent" performance gains? Really?!?!

For close to 10 years, Intel has been providing only 5-10% improvements year on year.

AMD's achievement in providing a 30% improvement over last year's product is surely a QUANTUM LEAP by comparison!

Sheesh!
Posted by Dorby
 - December 17, 2020, 09:00:05
I'm actually more looking forward to seeing thin and light ultrabooks with Ryzen H-CPUs in 2021. AMD has worked on power efficiency so hopefully OEMs will put these 35-45W chips into mid-range and high-end ultrabooks and 2-in-1 laptops without compromises.

We only have 2 ultrabooks with R7 4800H right now: Huawei MateBook 14 and Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Pro, both of them only mid-range and behind flagship Intel laptops' hardware, and neither really available anywhere.
Posted by ariliquin
 - December 17, 2020, 08:22:06
This is great, still waiting to manufacturers to make available High End notebooks to go with these chips. No idea why its a lock out at the high end of AMD in favour to Intel when AMD performs so much better.
Posted by Dorby
 - December 17, 2020, 02:34:18
Except Geekbench isn't the most accurate benchmark to test this CPU. Nor is it really comparable to real-life applications in most use cases.

What I want to see is an affordable mini PC with R7 5800H that I can hook up a RX 6800 eGPU through an M.2 PCIe 4 slot. That would make a great power-efficient work PC that is portable enough to be easily be carried to an office during the day, and transform into a powerful enough gaming rig at home. Total setup would only cost around $1,200 USD for a RTX 3070 level rig, much less expensive than a ultrabook Thunderbolt 3 eGPU setup.
Posted by xpclient
 - December 17, 2020, 01:57:31
If they finally support Thunderbolt 4 / USB4, I can finally get an AMD 5000 H series laptop with an NVIDIA GPU.

If AMD get their act together for integrated graphics in the video area (Video Core Next) upping HEVC quality massively and with B-frames, supporting AV1 etc), then I will be happy with an AMD U-series laptop too, preferably one with USB-C power delivery.

But they ignore Thunderbolt and HQ video encoding/decoding with GPU market.
Posted by Mate
 - December 16, 2020, 17:56:29
It should have single-core performance on par with M1, though Cezanne is only beginning. I'm almost certain that Zen4 on 5nm will shake market.
Posted by Redaktion
 - December 16, 2020, 16:20:55
Just like on the Ryzen 7 5800U ultra-low voltage APUs, the performance improvements recorded by the Ryzen 7 5800H model over the Renoir processors are not at all bad. The new Zen 3 cores clocked at 3.2 GHz base and 4.45 GHz boost perform 30% faster in single-core tests and 15% faster in multi-core tests compared to the default results for the Ryzen 7 4800H.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800H-shows-decent-performance-gains-over-the-4800H-model-in-latest-Geekbench-tests.509896.0.html