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Posted by Astar
 - March 11, 2021, 12:42:25
Ridiculous click bait trickery again from Notebookchat!

The Wccftech headline this article quotes is the direct opposite of this click bait headline!
"Intel And AMD x86 Mobility CPUs Destroy Apple's M1 In Cinebench R23 Benchmark Results" - https://wccftech.com/intel-and-amd-x86-mobility-cpus-destroy-apples-m1-in-cinebench-r23-benchmark-results/

Instead it appears that Notebookchat is a lackey website for CrApple!
Posted by S.Yu
 - November 19, 2020, 15:21:30
Quote from: Lin Baden on November 17, 2020, 21:44:52
Did you confirm that M1's tdp is 10W? Does it pull 10W during the whole cbr23 run? You compared it against intel's & amd's "15W" cpus but 15W is needed to only stay or surpass (for a bit) the base clockspeeds when all cores are at 100% utilization. A "15W" i7 1185G7 runs at 3Ghz on all 4 cores only at 15W, perhaps a bit over 3Ghz at those 15W. To achieve its advertised 4.3Ghz on all 4 cores, it needs around 40W to do so. To achieve its 4.8GHz on 1 core, it needs around 15W. Similar story with that R7 Pro 4750U, or even a 4800U. They need way more than 15W to reach and sustain their advertised all-core frequencies.
I really hope that the 10W speculation is true but let's not jump into conclusions that M1's tdp is 10W when in fact it might not be. These types of articles of yours are looking pretty s*** lately.
The current estimate based on the new Mac Mini is that M1 sustains a peak of 20-22W. Still far cooler than anything from Intel and AMD though, this may very well be the figure in the MBP, but perhaps can't be reached in the passively cooled MB.
Posted by anan
 - November 18, 2020, 10:12:13
@Lin Baden
It is stated in the article that these scores were sourced from WCCFTech. Unless NBC omitted the wattage data from the original source then they are not at fault.
The apple chip is not actively cooled. Any boost beyond the stated 10W TDP is probably not sustainable.
Posted by Lin Baden
 - November 17, 2020, 21:44:52
Did you confirm that M1's tdp is 10W? Does it pull 10W during the whole cbr23 run? You compared it against intel's & amd's "15W" cpus but 15W is needed to only stay or surpass (for a bit) the base clockspeeds when all cores are at 100% utilization. A "15W" i7 1185G7 runs at 3Ghz on all 4 cores only at 15W, perhaps a bit over 3Ghz at those 15W. To achieve its advertised 4.3Ghz on all 4 cores, it needs around 40W to do so. To achieve its 4.8GHz on 1 core, it needs around 15W. Similar story with that R7 Pro 4750U, or even a 4800U. They need way more than 15W to reach and sustain their advertised all-core frequencies.
I really hope that the 10W speculation is true but let's not jump into conclusions that M1's tdp is 10W when in fact it might not be. These types of articles of yours are looking pretty s*** lately.
Posted by S.Yu
 - November 17, 2020, 21:31:39
Interesting, the projected advantage was even greater in Spec, we'll soon be able to see how it plays out.
Posted by Redaktion
 - November 17, 2020, 17:47:34
Looks like ditching Intel for in-hose ARM-based chips was quite the power play from Apple. The new M1 processors appear to trade blows with AMD's / Intel's 15 W processors. According to the latest Cinebench R23 tests, the M1 can be slightly faster than the AMD Renoir-U APUs in single-core tests, and they can also beat the Intel Tiger Lake-U processors in multi-core tests by a decent margin.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/These-Apple-M1-Cinebench-R23-scores-are-quite-impressive-for-a-10-W-processor.504380.0.html