Redmond giant??

Microsoft are on their way out.

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 14, 2020, 18:12:04

Quote from: heffeque on September 14, 2020, 11:16:03

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 12:50:32

Quote from: heffeque on September 13, 2020, 12:28:10

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 08:39:18

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on September 13, 2020, 03:08:34

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.

I would disable Timeline as well, but the animation is choppy and the layout is much better in 1709 because it has no scrolling and windows that automatically resize, so you can see all your opened windows at a glance. I use Task View constantly to switch focused window with a touchpad gesture.

So it's because you have an old or under-powered computer then, correct?
The only machine I've ever noticed animation choppiness was with a 4GB RAM slow HDD Celeron laptop. Nothing 8GB or more with SSD that I've seen has even been choppy, not even 10 year-old computers.

That is not the case, it is choppy even on Surface devices. Google it, it is a common and old issue.

Well... it works fine on a Surface Pro 6.
Also working fine on a 9 year-old AIO ASUS with crappy ATi drivers (running W10 2004), and on a 7 year-old laptop with crappy nVidia drivers (running W10 1909).
With both of these old computers I installed 8 GB of RAM and a Crucial BX500 SSD, and I did a clean install of Windows 10 1909.
No problems whatsoever.

Maybe you need to back-up your stuff and do a clean Windows install because most people are having NO problems with Task View.

Undoubtedly your only, single experience corresponds to the experience of "most people".

Undoubtedly the fact that millions of people that have 1803 and up installed and haven't complained about it "might" have to do with my comment.
Clean install, or continue ranting about something you can actually fix. Your choice. Whatever makes you happy.

Quote from: heffeque on September 14, 2020, 11:16:03

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 12:50:32

Quote from: heffeque on September 13, 2020, 12:28:10

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 08:39:18

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on September 13, 2020, 03:08:34

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.

I would disable Timeline as well, but the animation is choppy and the layout is much better in 1709 because it has no scrolling and windows that automatically resize, so you can see all your opened windows at a glance. I use Task View constantly to switch focused window with a touchpad gesture.

So it's because you have an old or under-powered computer then, correct?
The only machine I've ever noticed animation choppiness was with a 4GB RAM slow HDD Celeron laptop. Nothing 8GB or more with SSD that I've seen has even been choppy, not even 10 year-old computers.

That is not the case, it is choppy even on Surface devices. Google it, it is a common and old issue.

Well... it works fine on a Surface Pro 6.
Also working fine on a 9 year-old AIO ASUS with crappy ATi drivers (running W10 2004), and on a 7 year-old laptop with crappy nVidia drivers (running W10 1909).
With both of these old computers I installed 8 GB of RAM and a Crucial BX500 SSD, and I did a clean install of Windows 10 1909.
No problems whatsoever.

Maybe you need to back-up your stuff and do a clean Windows install because most people are having NO problems with Task View.

Undoubtedly your only, single experience corresponds to the experience of "most people".

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 12:50:32

Quote from: heffeque on September 13, 2020, 12:28:10

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 08:39:18

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on September 13, 2020, 03:08:34

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.

I would disable Timeline as well, but the animation is choppy and the layout is much better in 1709 because it has no scrolling and windows that automatically resize, so you can see all your opened windows at a glance. I use Task View constantly to switch focused window with a touchpad gesture.

So it's because you have an old or under-powered computer then, correct?
The only machine I've ever noticed animation choppiness was with a 4GB RAM slow HDD Celeron laptop. Nothing 8GB or more with SSD that I've seen has even been choppy, not even 10 year-old computers.

That is not the case, it is choppy even on Surface devices. Google it, it is a common and old issue.

Well... it works fine on a Surface Pro 6.
Also working fine on a 9 year-old AIO ASUS with crappy ATi drivers (running W10 2004), and on a 7 year-old laptop with crappy nVidia drivers (running W10 1909).
With both of these old computers I installed 8 GB of RAM and a Crucial BX500 SSD, and I did a clean install of Windows 10 1909.
No problems whatsoever.

Maybe you need to back-up your stuff and do a clean Windows install because most people are having NO problems with Task View.

Spectre x360 2017 model here. Any upgrades beyond 180x breaks the trackpad :(

Quote from: heffeque on September 13, 2020, 12:28:10

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 08:39:18

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on September 13, 2020, 03:08:34

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.

I would disable Timeline as well, but the animation is choppy and the layout is much better in 1709 because it has no scrolling and windows that automatically resize, so you can see all your opened windows at a glance. I use Task View constantly to switch focused window with a touchpad gesture.

So it's because you have an old or under-powered computer then, correct?
The only machine I've ever noticed animation choppiness was with a 4GB RAM slow HDD Celeron laptop. Nothing 8GB or more with SSD that I've seen has even been choppy, not even 10 year-old computers.

That is not the case, it is choppy even on Surface devices. Google it, it is a common and old issue.

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 13, 2020, 08:39:18

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on September 13, 2020, 03:08:34

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.

I would disable Timeline as well, but the animation is choppy and the layout is much better in 1709 because it has no scrolling and windows that automatically resize, so you can see all your opened windows at a glance. I use Task View constantly to switch focused window with a touchpad gesture.

So it's because you have an old or under-powered computer then, correct?
The only machine I've ever noticed animation choppiness was with a 4GB RAM slow HDD Celeron laptop. Nothing 8GB or more with SSD that I've seen has even been choppy, not even 10 year-old computers.

Quote from: Codrut Nistor on September 13, 2020, 03:08:34

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.

I would disable Timeline as well, but the animation is choppy and the layout is much better in 1709 because it has no scrolling and windows that automatically resize, so you can see all your opened windows at a glance. I use Task View constantly to switch focused window with a touchpad gesture.

Quote from: Alessandro Pino on September 12, 2020, 22:06:56
Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.

What is wrong with it? I disabled Timeline from the start. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Seems like a cool feature, but I can live (better) without it.
@Veyron: Nothing new under the sun. Microsoft has always been (more or less) forcing upgrades on the users, but this behavior is somehow understandable - the idea is to have less versions in the wild so it is easier to support most users. At least that's how I see it.

Quote33.5 percent of the computers surveyed were still running Windows 10 1903 last month

Doesn't it force you to upgrade? That's one of the reasons I switched to Linux. I know there are workarounds, but there's no way 35% of users are tinkerers. How are there so many users in an old version?

Not upgrading from 1709 until they fix Task View.