Posted by: _MT_« on: May 14, 2020, 09:04:34 »
I really don't care what components this uses, be it intel, amd, nvidia, whatever. This is not a normal laptop or a good options for any reasonable use case, it's simply a powerfull machine that some people will choose to buy regardless of the value it offers (which imo is bad)That's what I thought about the first generation. Since it was their crazy flagship. Until I actually looked at the configurator. It turned out it offered better value than m17 R2 and in a reasonable configuration (still very powerful by laptop standards) wasn't much more expensive than XPS 15 as I would configure it (again, reasonable; no 8 core and such). I believe RAM (especially the 2933 MHz upgrade) and storage were relatively expensive, but you can upgrade them yourself and I just asked for a discount. Originally, I was looking at the m17. But to pay more and get less performance, when I was looking at a workstation alternative, for the sake of thinness and weight didn't make sense. Also, I was afraid the m17 is going to have poor cooling (it turned out better than I expected). One unfortunate thing is that you need at least RTX 2070 in the 51m to get the full cooling system.
Would a ryzen cpu be better (like the xmg apex 15)? Sure. Does it matter? Nope, you might as well buy a small form factor desktop and carry a portable display with you at this point.
I don't agree. The reality is that this thing isn't that much bigger than a 15" business laptop from about 15 years ago (the beginning of Core architecture). And while it's heavier, back then a 15" was around 3 kg without special accessories like second internal battery. I carried a machine like that every business day for years. You really can't compare the convenience of packing up a laptop and packing a desktop system, even if the computer itself is small. I have a Corsair One. And I have a purpose built Pelican case for it (plus display and so on). So I know first hand the difference. To me, this thing is like every other laptop. As far as packing and traveling. Except it has two power supplies (it can run on one with reduced performance) and battery life is negligible (I treat the battery as a built in UPS, like on mobile workstations). Well, you're not going to use it in flight. Even in a car with small luggage space, I don't really notice the difference. That can't be said about the Pelican case. Sure, if everything else was in place and I needed just the computer, the One would make a lot of sense. It's a little marvel. I could just throw it in a holdall with my clothes and be done with it.
However, bear in mind that there are not that many small computers that can match this thing for performance. And I wouldn't expect to save much money (my One was more expensive, but also better equipped).