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Posted by Game XGR ᵖʳᶦᶜᵉ/ᵖᵉʳᶠ ᶠᵀᵂ
 - April 27, 2023, 07:11:05
Quote from: NikoB on April 26, 2023, 13:56:19The case on the ports seems to be made correctly, but again the keyboard is damaged on the numpad (there is not enough space, but it is better to pack the distance between the keys and make the numpad buttons narrower in width, but with the classic key layout - this is more important and it is easier to get used to this).

Screen. Again fake "240Hz". In reality, it is at best 100Hz, according to measurements of a monstrous average response of 10ms. We look at the performance of the laptop in native resolution and see that the slow 4070 does not even pull out 60fps even in games of 2022. What's the point of this idiotic 2.5к resolution? Am I asking 100 times already about it. Here you need a 4k@120Hz panel with a response of 6-7ms. Which easily switches to fhd mode with full picture clarity, instead of obviously muddy when switching to fhd from 2.5k.

The cpu performance is good, but the memory is poorly optimized for timings, which is clearly visible in the AIDA64 benchmarks.

Again, I insist that instead of text values, we need an explicit full screenshot of the Cache&Memory test in AIDA64! Why does not a single author publish this screenshot, despite the fact that they publish a bunch of garbage, useless screenshots with the same de useless information on the processor? I know that Alder Lake and Raptor lose almost 2 times L3 cache latency to AMD processors. Maybe that's why the screenshot is not published?

In terms of noise, this is a completely uncomfortable laptop. The author did not write anything - is there a manual control of the coolers and what is the temperature threshold for turning them on, and this is critically important when choosing a modern laptop. Laptops with a this threshold of less than 72-75C can obviously be considered unsuitable for a quiet office load and work.

What do we get as a result? A pointless solution for both games and work. For games, the performance of 4070 is no longer enough at 2.5k (and the fhd mode cannot be used - a muddy picture, unlike 4k screens, where fhd is perfectly sharp) even in 2022 games, and for work a bad keyboard with a completely damaged useless numpad (it would be better it was completely removed and left with large arrows like in the HP Omen last years) and too much noise, and it seems uncontrollable by the user.

It is not clear the target audience of such models. For avid players, it is not suitable initially, as well as a cheap replacement for a workstation for working at home or in the office...

Is there Any laptop with a 4K 120Hz screen you always mention? If this garbage has 89% rating, probably not.
Posted by RobertJasiek
 - April 26, 2023, 16:04:37
The target audience is computer laymen. Overpriced rubbish for the uninformed.
Posted by NikoB
 - April 26, 2023, 13:56:19
The case on the ports seems to be made correctly, but again the keyboard is damaged on the numpad (there is not enough space, but it is better to pack the distance between the keys and make the numpad buttons narrower in width, but with the classic key layout - this is more important and it is easier to get used to this).

Screen. Again fake "240Hz". In reality, it is at best 100Hz, according to measurements of a monstrous average response of 10ms. We look at the performance of the laptop in native resolution and see that the slow 4070 does not even pull out 60fps even in games of 2022. What's the point of this idiotic 2.5к resolution? Am I asking 100 times already about it. Here you need a 4k@120Hz panel with a response of 6-7ms. Which easily switches to fhd mode with full picture clarity, instead of obviously muddy when switching to fhd from 2.5k.

The cpu performance is good, but the memory is poorly optimized for timings, which is clearly visible in the AIDA64 benchmarks.

Again, I insist that instead of text values, we need an explicit full screenshot of the Cache&Memory test in AIDA64! Why does not a single author publish this screenshot, despite the fact that they publish a bunch of garbage, useless screenshots with the same de useless information on the processor? I know that Alder Lake and Raptor lose almost 2 times L3 cache latency to AMD processors. Maybe that's why the screenshot is not published?

In terms of noise, this is a completely uncomfortable laptop. The author did not write anything - is there a manual control of the coolers and what is the temperature threshold for turning them on, and this is critically important when choosing a modern laptop. Laptops with a this threshold of less than 72-75C can obviously be considered unsuitable for a quiet office load and work.

What do we get as a result? A pointless solution for both games and work. For games, the performance of 4070 is no longer enough at 2.5k (and the fhd mode cannot be used - a muddy picture, unlike 4k screens, where fhd is perfectly sharp) even in 2022 games, and for work a bad keyboard with a completely damaged useless numpad (it would be better it was completely removed and left with large arrows like in the HP Omen last years) and too much noise, and it seems uncontrollable by the user.

It is not clear the target audience of such models. For avid players, it is not suitable initially, as well as a cheap replacement for a workstation for working at home or in the office...
Posted by LL
 - April 26, 2023, 10:35:43
Yes, Nvidia VRAM discrimination against laptops looks increasingly bad.

That 4070 has quite a nice performance in Blender Optix Classroom at 19 seconds.
Posted by Redaktion
 - April 26, 2023, 04:14:27
Medion's heavily equipped gaming notebook offers a large 16-inch screen (QHD+, 240 Hz, G-Sync) in 16:10 format, a mechanical keyboard, 32 GB of RAM and a whopping 2 TB of storage space. A Core i9-13900HX and a GeForce RTX 4070 drive the powerful computing behemoth.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Erazer-Major-X20-review-Gaming-notebook-with-RTX-4070-and-solid-hardware.709454.0.html