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Posted by Valantar
 - April 02, 2020, 10:59:46
Quote from: william blake on March 31, 2020, 18:06:27
Quote from: fasddsadasdas on March 31, 2020, 17:39:16
Intel is in a league of its own. AMD is not a threat.
Jokes aside, the new 10980HK will most probably beat 4800H and also hopefully 4900H.
zen 2>any 14nm lake. ask newton&einstein.
Even if they weren't respectively 293 and 65 years dead you would first need to explain to them quite a lot - in Newton's case starting with what electricity is and moving on from there, and in Einstein's case what an integrated circuit is, how modern silicon litography works, and so on. Not the best people for that question, in other words.

Still, the best Intel can hope for with this is performance parity in cases with excellent cooling, as their power disadvantage at this point is massive. In anything thermally limited Renoir is bound to be much better.
Posted by william blake
 - March 31, 2020, 18:06:27
Quote from: fasddsadasdas on March 31, 2020, 17:39:16
Intel is in a league of its own. AMD is not a threat.
Jokes aside, the new 10980HK will most probably beat 4800H and also hopefully 4900H.
zen 2>any 14nm lake. ask newton&einstein.
Posted by sdasd
 - March 31, 2020, 18:05:53
Quote from: fasddsadasdas on March 31, 2020, 17:39:16
Jokes aside, the new 10980HK will most probably beat 4800H and also hopefully 4900H.

Sure, very likely to match or beat it slightly, but at double the price and double tdp I wouldn't call it much of a victory (assumption based on performance comparison against the i9-9980HK which the 10980HK will be based upon)
Posted by fasddsadasdas
 - March 31, 2020, 17:39:16
Intel is in a league of its own. AMD is not a threat.
Jokes aside, the new 10980HK will most probably beat 4800H and also hopefully 4900H.
Posted by Valantar
 - March 31, 2020, 16:29:01
Intel has been doing this for a while. It's not exactly irrelevant - that's what a lot of people are upgrading from, after all - it just fails to address the competition whatsoever.
Posted by Redaktion
 - March 31, 2020, 15:12:04
In what appears to be public relations gaffe, Intel compared its upcoming i9-10980HK to an unnamed "3YO PC" to showcase supposed performance gains, completely ignoring AMD Ryzen 4000 Renoir parts like the Ryzen 7 4800H that match or even exceed it in certain workloads.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-s-embarrassing-Comet-Lake-H-ad-pits-the-i9-10980HK-against-3YO-PC-not-the-AMD-Ryzen-7-4800H.459570.0.html