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Posted by fel
 - Today at 11:21:26
Quote from: immediate-nothing on Yesterday at 21:04:08Ok, i never post and comment and just created this account. if bluetooth and wifi aren't disabled through a physical on off switch, then I am not sure using a vlan and adblock does anything to prevent what the goal is. it's likely the majority of our devices are doing this and have been for some time. think the goal is to spatially map these electronic items and a physical switch is needed because if it's an digital switch then people can't be sure anything is 100% disabled and just not on ultra low power mode where scanning may still occur.

Quote from: citral on Yesterday at 08:45:47Yeah, kind of obvious but good that they make the masses aware and public shame them.

Personally I never connected mine, I use an Android tv box that is segregated on a "garbage iot" vlan that can't see my other devices, behind adguard that blocks some of what it tries to phone home. Not perfect but lesser evil.


I would be interested to know how you keep your box segregated from your other devices..
Posted by JROSS
 - Today at 08:27:09
Quote from: Fred Nader on Yesterday at 16:09:11You mean those settings any normal person disables the day they get the TV ?
The video covers this extensively. Opting out didnt matter. There are multiple microphones on the device. Even toggling the physical mic off button on one LG model didnt actually kill it. Audio was not only picked up, but recorded and stored until an internet connection was restored.
Posted by Mike3
 - Today at 07:33:44
Incredible, I will never buy an LG TV.
Do you have mastodon?
Posted by Dale
 - Today at 06:22:49
They need to pay big time restitution for this but we need REAL amounts not $20 like normal class action payments. The only people making big money are the attorneys which is fine IF they got hundreds for each person.
Posted by JohnD
 - Today at 02:57:20
It won't work for me.  I refuse to own a TV.
Posted by Nicholas Alexander
 - Today at 02:26:06

If it's harmless and only for voice recognition, why would it store the data for upload elsewhere?

Posted by Bill
 - Today at 01:20:35
So its ok to SPY on people now.?!
Posted by immediate-nothing
 - Yesterday at 21:04:08
Ok, i never post and comment and just created this account. if bluetooth and wifi aren't disabled through a physical on off switch, then I am not sure using a vlan and adblock does anything to prevent what the goal is. it's likely the majority of our devices are doing this and have been for some time. think the goal is to spatially map these electronic items and a physical switch is needed because if it's an digital switch then people can't be sure anything is 100% disabled and just not on ultra low power mode where scanning may still occur.

Quote from: citral on Yesterday at 08:45:47Yeah, kind of obvious but good that they make the masses aware and public shame them.

Personally I never connected mine, I use an Android tv box that is segregated on a "garbage iot" vlan that can't see my other devices, behind adguard that blocks some of what it tries to phone home. Not perfect but lesser evil.
Posted by Deairpilot
 - Yesterday at 20:46:17
No Class action lawsuits, ever. The attorneys are the only ones making any money.
We have no privacy. We are being watched, tracked, logged and spied on from every direction.
Posted by bone61
 - Yesterday at 19:58:51
How is this even legal?
Posted by PaulAt
 - Yesterday at 19:48:53
Quote from: nraendowment on Yesterday at 19:04:38I own an LG OLED55C4PUA. The first thing I did upon installation was turn off (or so I thought) audio monitoring with the physical switch under the TV. Is this thing still listening to us?

Yes it is, they cover this in the video. The tv has multiple mics and the rest of them are still on, listening, and logging. Further, it's trivial for an attacker to turn the main mic back on via terminal regardless of the hardware switch situation.
Posted by PaulAt
 - Yesterday at 19:44:04
Quote from: The Yar on Yesterday at 14:17:43I assume the listening is for voice activation or Alexa integration. The local network phone mapping is to find phones that can be used as remotes. This story was just waiting for someone to write, but I doubt there's anything here.
Quote from: Corvaxus on Yesterday at 14:30:43This is a known feature that is not hidden which is not automatically turned on by default.

Two clowns making pro-LG "assumptions" without bothering to watch the investigation video. I wonder if they're on the payroll, or doing this for free.

Your LG tv is constantly recording audio and storing it. The voice command window is ~15 seconds of silence before it shuts off silently, so in an environment with ambient conversation (office, board room, etc) that's never. Remote code execution is trivial and does not require physical access, just being on the same network. Whether it's LG's advertising division or another hostile actor, if you have this demonic device anywhere near you, you are pwned.

Re "actually you agreed to let these criminals rob you in the fine print", these TVs have about 4 hours of T&Cs you're "required" to read before use (they actually added this up with avg human reading speed) so spare me.

It's deeply embarassing for LG that they'd send agents into threads like this to shill their evil line.
Posted by nraendowment
 - Yesterday at 19:04:38
I own an LG OLED55C4PUA. The first thing I did upon installation was turn off (or so I thought) audio monitoring with the physical switch under the TV. Is this thing still listening to us?
Posted by Gino188
 - Yesterday at 18:07:55
Quote from: Corvaxus on Yesterday at 14:30:43This is a known feature that is not hidden which is not automatically turned on by default.

You must set your TV to a different standby mode and enable LG voice control.

When you do this, it very plainly tells you that it can listen with the screen off so you can control the TV with voice.

Failure of User Awareness, not some nefarious spyware.

Yea. I remember when I got my LG C2 and I read it was doing Automatic Content Recognition and and recording the voice. I kept saying No when the popup comes, but it came up multiple times each day. Then I instead turned off a setting and did not connect it to the internet. But now it asks me everyday to connect it to the internet,in the middle of me using the tv, not at startup. It is super annoying.
Posted by Hg
 - Yesterday at 18:00:28
How many other tvs & phones & computers do this? This is crap! All this snooping for advertising purposes... Do we have ANY privacy left???