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Posted by heffeque
 - Today at 10:02:13
Quote from: not_brainwashed on Today at 04:25:01
Quote from: heffeque on Today at 01:10:42You seem to be quite a bit misinformed:
The sales slump is car sales in China in general, irrespective of car brand.

Chinese cars are selling like hot cakes everywhere, inside and out of China (except the US, obviously).

To give some examples, you'll see Chinese cars in Australia (BYD Seal U is selling great), Uruguay (last month BYD #1, Geely #2, Chevrolet #3, Suzuki #4, and Dongfeng #5, so 3 out of the 5 most sold brands were Chinese), Spain (almost 20% of cars sold to private individuals were Chinese brands)... I even saw a BYD Yangwang U9 Xtreme parked in Monaco last week beside a Bugatti, a McLaren, and a few other nice cars.

Another true statement is that traditional brands are falling quite a bit in the largest car market in the world (China), hence indy0's comment.

Amazing how Chinese bots on the internet have brainwashed the uneducated to spread their propaganda. Here is a fact for you: Chinese car brands (all combined!) are irrelevant in 9 of the 10 biggest car markets in the world. The countries you mentioned simply do not matter for the big picture, neither does your anecdotal evidence. Stop perpetuating false narratives.
Bot spotted!
Stop feeding Trump/Elon propaganda.
Posted by NPC
 - Today at 07:20:18
Yeah. But usually, when propaganda is most effective it's because there is some truth to the message being conveyed. ;)

Also, when I type in Google Gemini "Chinese car brands (all combined!) are irrelevant in 9 of the 10 biggest car markets"

It responds back with: "This claim is false."
Posted by not_brainwashed
 - Today at 04:25:01
Quote from: heffeque on Today at 01:10:42You seem to be quite a bit misinformed:
The sales slump is car sales in China in general, irrespective of car brand.

Chinese cars are selling like hot cakes everywhere, inside and out of China (except the US, obviously).

To give some examples, you'll see Chinese cars in Australia (BYD Seal U is selling great), Uruguay (last month BYD #1, Geely #2, Chevrolet #3, Suzuki #4, and Dongfeng #5, so 3 out of the 5 most sold brands were Chinese), Spain (almost 20% of cars sold to private individuals were Chinese brands)... I even saw a BYD Yangwang U9 Xtreme parked in Monaco last week beside a Bugatti, a McLaren, and a few other nice cars.

Another true statement is that traditional brands are falling quite a bit in the largest car market in the world (China), hence indy0's comment.

Amazing how Chinese bots on the internet have brainwashed the uneducated to spread their propaganda. Here is a fact for you: Chinese car brands (all combined!) are irrelevant in 9 of the 10 biggest car markets in the world. The countries you mentioned simply do not matter for the big picture, neither does your anecdotal evidence. Stop perpetuating false narratives.
Posted by heffeque
 - Today at 01:10:42
Quote from: verified on Yesterday at 20:25:14
Quote from: indy0 on Yesterday at 19:12:25And German car manufacturers wonder why China is eating their lunch.

riiight, the same Chinese car makers who just reported a huge slump because nobody outside their own country buys their trash life-endangering cars? LOL
You seem to be quite a bit misinformed:
The sales slump is car sales in China in general, irrespective of car brand.

Chinese cars are selling like hot cakes everywhere, inside and out of China (except the US, obviously).

To give some examples, you'll see Chinese cars in Australia (BYD Seal U is selling great), Uruguay (last month BYD #1, Geely #2, Chevrolet #3, Suzuki #4, and Dongfeng #5, so 3 out of the 5 most sold brands were Chinese), Spain (almost 20% of cars sold to private individuals were Chinese brands)... I even saw a BYD Yangwang U9 Xtreme parked in Monaco last week beside a Bugatti, a McLaren, and a few other nice cars.

Another true statement is that traditional brands are falling quite a bit in the largest car market in the world (China), hence indy0's comment.
Posted by verified
 - Yesterday at 20:25:14
Quote from: indy0 on Yesterday at 19:12:25And German car manufacturers wonder why China is eating their lunch.

riiight, the same Chinese car makers who just reported a huge slump because nobody outside their own country buys their trash life-endangering cars? LOL
Posted by indy0
 - Yesterday at 19:12:25
And German car manufacturers wonder why China is eating their lunch.
Posted by heffeque
 - Yesterday at 15:59:42
Next version they'll add the sound of horses pulling from the carriage.
Posted by Redaktion
 - Yesterday at 13:15:06
Porsche built its legacy around the sounds and feel of an air-cooled flat-six engine and couldn't resist releasing a 2027 electric Taycan with an E-Shift feature. Its electric supercar can pipe synthetic engine noises through the speakers and jolt with simulated gear changes on demand.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Porsche-s-2027-Taycan-fakes-gear-shifts-and-rev-sounds-in-pricey-EV-theater.1324353.0.html