idk. Didn't Tom say previously that RDNA 4m was pretty much 3.5 + hardware ml upscaling blocks? But in this video he made it seem like a massive leap in perf / watt and way more bandwidth efficient similar to desktop rdna4. So which one is it exactly?

That seems like a possible contradiction from previous statements I'll say.

Quote from: Knownbg on Today at 10:36:54He's right. Nothing to be excited for. Predictable. Always massive disappointment.

It's not like you're entitled to amd products, just buy intel/Qualcomm instead, but I doubt anything would be able to satisfy your ego.

QuoteOnly to then finally eventually bring them under the guise of "platform support" longevity when we all know hey could of done so right from the beginning.

No, they could not release such products from the get go because they are supposed to be defects, Which you first need to build inventory of, otherwise they would be forced to artificially handicap high end chips.

Quote from: nothingburger-rumorcareer on Today at 09:43:32

QuoteMLID initially leaked that the big "classic" Zen 6 cores could boast a crazy 7 GHz boost frequency.
MLID now claims that Zen 6 will "100%" clock above 6.5 GHz.

Ok, so first it's 7 GHz (who would believe that tho), now it's 6.5 GHz (still hard to believe), in 6 months it's going to be 6 GHz and in another 6 months/on release/announcement date, it's going to be 5.5-5.8 GHz.

There are no contradictions/inconsistencies in these mlid's statements, apply some cognition.

Great job by AMD; the jump to AMD Zen 6 will be almost the death knell for Intel.
Now all that remains is for iGPUs in laptops to be far superior with RDNA 5, which is what everyone expects, and a new microarchitecture from AMD Zen 6. And most importantly, the prices shouldn't be as high as those launched by Intel and Pantherlake, impossible to buy here in Europe at almost €2,000 for a chip with only 4Xe3 cores—a disgrace from Intel, all under the guise of 18A. Now we'll see who has done their job: Intel with 18A or TSMC with 2N.

Quote from: Anonymousgg on Today at 04:51:46

Quote from: Tanishq Hooda on Yesterday at 21:34:04Not exciting that's expected

If they give the budget 10-core Zen 6

AMD doesn't care about budget desktop just like they don't care about their apus.

If it's good they'll overcharge like $450 for it and if it's not they'll still overcharge $350+ for stagnation.

Vanilla versions will be mediocre as hell, that will most likely be beaten by 9600x3d.

The only cpus they care about are x3d's which will be like a $700+. Then they'll delay launching / bringing the same x3d tech to lower end cpus by like 5 years. Only to then finally eventually bring them under the guise of "platform support" longevity when we all know hey could of done so right from the beginning.

He's right. Nothing to be excited for. Predictable. Always massive disappointment.

Don't worry though. MLID will hype up every release just like he glazes his hp halo laptop with mediatek WiFi.

1440p relative performance:
techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html
9800X3D: 100% (100/97.2 -> 2.9% faster than predecessor)
7800X3D: 97.2% (97.2/91.9 -> 5.8% faster than predecessor)
5800X3D: 91.7%

Applications relative performance:
techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html
9800X3D: 100% (17.5% faster than predecessor)
7800X3D: 85.1% (25% faster than predecessor)
5800X3D: 68.1%

The 12-core CCD is going to be the biggest reason to upgrade, but for pure gaming, probably not.

Clock speed:
techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/26.html
9800X3D: 5.2 GHz (4 nm) (4% faster than predecessor)
7800X3D: 5.0 GHz (5 nm) (11% faster than predecessor)
5800X3D: 4.5 GHz (7 nm)

I believe the 6.5 GHz clock when I see it.

QuoteJumping straight into the potential Zen 6 clock speeds, MLID initially leaked that the big "classic" Zen 6 cores could boast a crazy 7 GHz boost frequency. This is possible because AMD's alleged use of TSMC's cutting-edge N2X 2 nm node for the 12-core CCDs.

MLID now claims that Zen 6 will "100%" clock above 6.5 GHz.

Ok, so first it's 7 GHz (who would believe that tho), now it's 6.5 GHz (still hard to believe), in 6 months it's going to be 6 GHz and in another 6 months/on release/announcement date, it's going to be 5.5-5.8 GHz.

Nothing is being eaten as hot as it's being cooked.

Quote from: Tanishq Hooda on Yesterday at 21:34:04Not exciting that's expected

A minimum 15% boost to the top turbo is pretty exciting.

If they give the budget 10-core Zen 6 a 6.2 GHz turbo with 10% IPC gain, that should outperform the i9-14900KS.

Not exciting that's expected