Good if you want to choose the hardware offered by Framework. I don't because the keyboard layout does not fit my needs. My way to tell anti-repair manufacturers is to use devices for 10 or more years.

I agree with what other users here are saying when they justify the price, but the point no one has touched on is that you're also paying for an ethos. You're paying to enjoy the repairability and upgradeability, but you're also putting your money where your mouth is. The market needs to feel the desire consumers have for devices that aren't just disposable appliances with locked ecosystems. I'm comfortable with my $2600 pre-order sending that message.

Perhaps they could offer a smaller battery as an option if that will save some weight and cost.

QuoteAlmost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

With the same specs, in Europe they are 50% more expensive than Apple's M5.

Yeah, it's too expensive, they should lower their prices to attract more customers...

Quote from: toto1234 on April 29, 2026, 09:26:19Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

Almost every laptop is twice the price of that though.

Apple is pretty much the only OEM who can compete for ram contracts with AI data centre companies on an equal footing because they've the cash, unlike the rest of the other OEMs in the windows space.

The key is volume too. Apple orders memory in the 10-100 millions. A small company like framework is gonna be more like 10-100 thousands. So they'll always be at a disadvantage.

This is precisely why a lot of smaller businesses are going out of business atm and the exact same thing happened during COVID too.

Quote from: toto1234 on April 29, 2026, 09:26:19Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?

The whole point being that you don't have to buy an entirely new laptop every few generations or when yours breaks. You'd only have to buy a new mainboard assuming you aren't changing storage, ram, chassis, etc.

Even though the ram/storage market is dog$#%@ right now, the pricing is still surprisingly better than Apple, who charges $400 for 16gb->32gb ram and $200 for 512gb->1tb storage. I know that Apple trade-in exists, but I've never owned a mac before, and I'd rather have the guarantee of owning and switching out the hardware.

Plus, you'd be paying for features like the 3:2 touchscreen display or manual off switches for the camera and microphone, not to mention ease of disassembly. Don't get me wrong, the M5 air is an excellent computer, but I'm willing to bet there are many like me who'd rather not enter Apple's walled garden.

It's expensive, but it's very useful for people who run Linux.

Almost twice as expensive as Apple Macbook Air M5

Are they serious ?