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Posted by duh
 - Today at 10:01:45
QuoteQuad-Channel
It's dual-channel, like 99% of home (mini) PCs out there (some run in single channel, because they are only using one RAM slot, but are actually dual-channel). 2 * 64-bit per (SO-)DIMM slot.

AIDA64 measures 62416 MB/s (=62.416 GB/s).
Let's confirm:
Theoretical maximum: 89.6 GB/s = 128-bit * 5600 MT/s / 1000 / 8.
What any memory benchmark tool would measure: 65-85 % of the theoretical maximum: 69.66% = 62.416 GB/s / 89.6 GB/s. This falls perfectly within the expected range.

Quoteand light AI workloads.
Good that you added "light": Especially the prompt processing speed on a Radeon 860M and its only 89.6 GB/s is exactly enough only for light AI workloads (unless, of course, you are ok with waiting for up to many, many hours for a result).

Time that AMD makes a 43% (= 8000MT/s / 5600MT/s) bigger APU due to using LPCAMM2 / SOCAMM2 memory. Ideally, I'd like to see not only 8000 MT/s, but 9600 MT/s, because then it would not only be 43% but 71% (= 9600MT/s / 5600MT/s). If 9600 MT/s (APPLE M5 and INTEL Panther Lake are already using 9600 MT/s memory speeds) is only possible using soldered memory chips, well, then so be it (it's not like RAM breaks often and would need to be replaced). Only the prices need to come down, too.
Posted by Harriet Ross
 - Today at 04:38:50
Interesting breakdown of the PN54. The Ryzen AI 300 platform looks promising, especially for users needing a balance between efficiency and light AI workloads. I'm curious how it handles sustained loads over time—thermal limits can make or break these mini PCs. Also, expandability is a big plus. Even my Granny would appreciate a quiet, compact system like this for daily use without worrying about noise or power draw.
Posted by kapemi
 - September 04, 2025, 12:52:02
Thank you! Mastering wordle unlimited comes down to strategy, memory, and smart word choices.!
Posted by adsm
 - September 02, 2025, 08:41:27
Quote from: 1249€ for only 32 GB RAM? on August 31, 2025, 10:54:26Don't care, you are not going to need any support for this, it's a mini-PC. Would get a much cheaper chinese Ryzen AI 7 350 barebone unit over this any day.

But since this has "Business" in the title, maybe it's for companies. In this case, it is understandable that some companies may care about support, tho, let's be honest, it's a mini PC, it's not going to break and even if, a spare unit (that is always available anyway, because the replacement takes time) can be used while the normal legal warranty takes care of it. Maybe this is the first non-chinese Zen 5 mini-PC and that's why it's more expensive, because normally a warranty would take care of the "Business" in the title?
Quote.. for multitasking and business applications. ..
Ok, so which business applications can this Ryzen AI 7 350 mini-PC run, which a chinese Ryzen AI 7 350 mini-PC couldn't?

Saw recently on this site a chinese Ryzen AI 7 350 mini-PC for like half the price.. The only reason to get this PN54 over a chinese one is for political reasons? But even then, politics is one thing and economy the other ;)

Yes, also in the electric car market the chinese offer cars at half the price (maybe they are slightly worse, but they are HALF the price)..it's a big thing indeed and china imports now less electric cars from outside (no need to import anymore, as the quality etc. have improved).

Yes, it is a business product. You don't care but you are not a target. I have Minisforum UM790-Pro miniPC and there was a few BIOS updates to solve some major issues and that's it. Lot's of China miniPCs never seen BIOS update and they work somehow. Check Asus PN53 support. It is still supported but it cost more than my UM790-Pro. Why? Because better quality, more testing before and after release, certification and much better support.
The same with China cars.
You won't get the kind of support you get from established brands.
They have to be cheaper because no one would buy them. They have to save somewhere and also get subsidies from the government.
I remember Korean car companies when they started. They were also cheaper but the quality and support was much worse. Chinese car companies also need time. Some of them will disappear and compete with established brands. But then they will definitely not be half as cheap.
Posted by Hotz
 - August 31, 2025, 13:36:45
Quote from: adsm on August 28, 2025, 00:38:14Why so small?
2-3 cm won't hurt and would help with cooling

The same s*** with every NUC-like computer. If they were 2-3 cm bigger and had space for a Standard- or Low-Profile CPU cooler, they would actually be good well-rounded package. But as it is, they're always a pain in the a.. because of the subpar cooling, caused by the minimalistic case. And they (big companies) know that. They must know. Everywhere you look, people are complaining about the subpar cooling solution of these small boxes - and yet nothing is being changed. Disgusting.
Posted by 1249€ for only 32 GB RAM?
 - August 31, 2025, 10:54:26
Quote1249 Euro
Why so ridiculously expensive? and not even an OS? I expected maybe up to 650 bucks. One can get a whole 32GB RAM, OLED Notebook for less: "Lenovo IdeaPad Pro 5 16AKP10, Luna Grey, Ryzen AI 7 350, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD" for 1149 bucks.

32 GB RAM are not enough to be able to run
huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3-30B-A3B-Instruct-2507-GGUF at q8 quant
so ASUS, give us at least a barebone unit for (much) cheaper.

QuoteIt's expensive, but Asus' support is better than Chinese companies. And support costs something.
Don't care, you are not going to need any support for this, it's a mini-PC. Would get a much cheaper chinese Ryzen AI 7 350 barebone unit over this any day.

But since this has "Business" in the title, maybe it's for companies. In this case, it is understandable that some companies may care about support, tho, let's be honest, it's a mini PC, it's not going to break and even if, a spare unit (that is always available anyway, because the replacement takes time) can be used while the normal legal warranty takes care of it. Maybe this is the first non-chinese Zen 5 mini-PC and that's why it's more expensive, because normally a warranty would take care of the "Business" in the title?
Quote.. for multitasking and business applications. ..
Ok, so which business applications can this Ryzen AI 7 350 mini-PC run, which a chinese Ryzen AI 7 350 mini-PC couldn't?

Saw recently on this site a chinese Ryzen AI 7 350 mini-PC for like half the price.. The only reason to get this PN54 over a chinese one is for political reasons? But even then, politics is one thing and economy the other ;)

Yes, also in the electric car market the chinese offer cars at half the price (maybe they are slightly worse, but they are HALF the price)..it's a big thing indeed and china imports now less electric cars from outside (no need to import anymore, as the quality etc. have improved).
Posted by adsm
 - August 28, 2025, 00:38:14
Why so small?
2-3 cm won't hurt and would help with cooling

Two LAN ports are popular these days but why there? It's (office) PC.

It's expensive, but Asus' support is better than Chinese companies. And support costs something.
Also it has various certifications.
Posted by Redaktion
 - August 27, 2025, 12:00:37
The Asus ExpertCenter PN54 presents itself as a compact mini PC with a modern AMD Ryzen AI 300 platform. In the test, we examine its performance, noise level, energy efficiency and expandability. This shows whether the device is only suitable for office tasks or also masters more demanding applications with ease.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ExpertCenter-PN54-Business-mini-PC-with-AMD-Ryzen-AI-7-and-modern-features-in-the-review.1096722.0.html