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Quote from: davidm on Today at 03:27:18128bit width RAM.

Correct, but it's about the memory bandwidth, not memory bus width, tho. Using LPCAMM2 allows for a 52% increase in memory bandwidth (8533 MT/s / 5600 MT/s).

It's nice to see a 52% increase but it's not 100%, 200% or more based on the higher MT RAM in the first place that Apple sees with its wider bus chips. It makes a tremendous difference in many applications while still maintaining excellent battery life. M5 Max gets 614 GB/s, this Thinkpad is going to be around one fifth that. notebookcheck barely touches this topic. I'm simply a Linux guy who uses local AI and wants the best.

Quote from: idk on Today at 10:49:19I'm not an Apple fan and I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here

So what's your favourite fruit then? Plum, pears, watermelon, grapes, strawberry, raspberry, cranberry, coconut, Mango, Banana, Passion fruit, apricot, lemon?

Spit it out already, I need to know.

Quote from: idk on Today at 10:49:19but check out Apple MacBook Air

The average MacBook air user is just browsing and doing web apps. It's true, air probably is a better more well rounded product but from their perspective it's like, why even pay more when the neo is good enough for what they do. I don't like the used argument because in few months time you'll start to see used neo's which will make it even cheaper.

@Enma: You should see gamers Nexus recent video on AMD. It's about how AMD is now part of the very same corruption that Nvidia is and Intel before them. They're just slightly worse at it. That they're no longer the "underdog" they once were and pretty much scamming consumers. This has been known for sometime now. But he actually brings the receipts and quite a bit of evidence / sources. I found it interesting anyway.

Is this the first Thinkpad with a 120 Hz display option? Or are there older ones I can look for on the second hand market?

Price is king here, and rumors suggest it will be around $2,500, which seems absolutely insane for a laptop without a dGPU.
I prefer to wait for AMD Zen 6 and Nova Lake and start saving, because Intel is currently selling its processors at exorbitant prices, which I won't allow.
There's a lot of competition now because there are five manufacturers: Intel, AMD, Qualcomm, Apple, and Nvidia.
If they want to sell their products, they'll have to compete on price.

Quote from: davidm on Today at 03:27:18128bit width RAM.

Correct, but it's about the memory bandwidth, not memory bus width, tho. Using LPCAMM2 allows for a 52% increase in memory bandwidth (8533 MT/s / 5600 MT/s).

Quote from: BWC on Today at 06:38:15Has there been a national bus width censorship campaign that I've been unaware of? Yes, it is but it's not like it was ever not known or hidden.

Also, you say this like it's a bad thing. Small bus width means better battery life. Until we get to LPDDR6. Apparently, according to phawx it will allow parts of memory to completely power down / off which will do wonders for battery life. Maybe then we will have 256 bit bus x86 with reasonable battery life.

128-bit bus also means smaller and thus cheaper chip.

Apple's M Pro is 256-bit (I think there's a 128-bit, which is still called Pro, tho) and has great battery life.


I'm not an Apple fan and I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but check out Apple MacBook Air (also available as Refurbished M3/M4 on Apple's website), but even a new MacBook Air M5 is much cheaper. The Air has a great display (500 nits, 100% DCI-P3), better battery life, no fans and is arguably better looking.

Has there been a national bus width censorship campaign that I've been unaware of? Yes, it is but it's not like it was ever not known or hidden.

Also, you say this like it's a bad thing. Small bus width means better battery life. Until we get to LPDDR6. Apparently, according to phawx it will allow parts of memory to completely power down / off which will do wonders for battery life. Maybe then we will have 256 bit bus x86 with reasonable battery life.

128bit width RAM.