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Posted by 10-15W APU
 - Today at 09:55:34
QuoteWe already saw that the new chips also perform very well in a TDP range between 20-35 Watts
Based on that power limited to 20W, the Arc B390 isn't much more power efficient than when power limited to 25W, I'd like to see a cheaper 8-core, 10-15W, variant. These "handhelds" are just too big/bulky and too heavy. The Steam Deck is more like it should be.

opckieran - maybe, but the big money is in the datacenters right now (AI hype). Once AMD has made the money and not lost market share in AI (well, ok, still no CUDA alternative from AMD), they can start designing a new APU and afford TSMC' N3E node (expect similar FPS/Watt, of course, one could say that by then, INTEL will have something better). I don't really believe they got caught napping, as Panther Lake' APU performance was first discussed years before release, no? Also patents, etc.
Posted by opckieran
 - Yesterday at 23:51:34
QuoteAMD's current chips simply cannot keep up with Panther Lake.

If Panther Lake can maintain a 50-60% GPU performance lead in handheld form factors, it'll probably gain at least a $250-300 advantage over AMD's offerings in that space. Which, honestly, matches the sort of premium I think most people would pay for a Panther Lake laptop. Has AMD been caught napping? Probably.
Posted by Redaktion
 - Yesterday at 21:51:06
Intel managed to improve the graphics performance with their new Panther Lake chips, even at lower power limits. This means the new processors are the perfect choice for gaming handhelds, which will benefit massively from increased gaming performance.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-s-Panther-Lake-chips-with-powerful-iGPUs-are-perfect-for-gaming-handhelds.1229742.0.html