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Posted by jdrch
 - Yesterday at 23:15:33
Quote from: 123 on Yesterday at 21:22:35Wonder if they leak Bitlocker keys of systems with local accounts only, and if it is possible to prevent that...

The option to save the key locally instead of in the cloud is given to the user the 1st time the user encrypts an unencrypted disk. The warning shown clearly outlines the benefits and risks of both options. I know this because I've done it before.

Now, keys can still be uploaded to the cloud via user error, e.g. the user saving the key in a folder that's synced to a cloud service. But Windows itself does not "leak" the key <- I'm sure a security researcher can disprove this in time, but for now it's a fact.

The only way to be absolutely sure disk encryption works is to use a system whose code you understand and have audited yourself.
Posted by 123
 - Yesterday at 21:22:35
Wonder if they leak Bitlocker keys of systems with local accounts only, and if it is possible to prevent that...
Posted by Admiral Snackbar
 - Yesterday at 16:08:41
Quote from: common sense on Yesterday at 10:44:27Are u 2 saying that one can rely on M$' encryption to be actually unencryptable from the gov if it really comes down to it? "I don't think so." Even legally M$ is probably not allowed to support encryption without backdoors for the 3-letter agencies.

It doesn't sound like you read any of the posts to which you are referring.
Posted by common sense
 - Yesterday at 10:44:27
Are u 2 saying that one can rely on M$' encryption to be actually unencryptable from the gov if it really comes down to it? "I don't think so." Even legally M$ is probably not allowed to support encryption without backdoors for the 3-letter agencies.
Posted by Admiral Snackbar
 - Yesterday at 01:22:29
Quote from: jdrch on Yesterday at 00:45:46The only thing you can do with a Bitlocker key is unlock a Bitlocker encrypted disk you already have physical access to. Which means that if the FBI are requesting your Bitlocker key, they've already seized your computer.

It seems likely that the FBI director had a personal disagreement regarding the civil rights movement and clearly abused his power as director of the FBI to order surveillance of the civil rights leader as well as a campaign to harass and ridicule Dr. King.

QuoteFBI director J. Edgar Hoover personally ordered surveillance of King, with the intent to undermine his power as a civil rights leader. The Church Committee, a 1975 investigation by the U.S. Congress, found that "From December 1963 until his death in 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was the target of an intensive campaign by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to 'neutralize' him as an effective civil rights leader."...

Although Robert Kennedy only gave written approval for limited wiretapping of King's telephone lines "on a trial basis, for a month or so", Hoover extended the clearance so his men were "unshackled" to look for evidence in any areas of King's life they deemed worthy.

-Wikipedia (Martin Luther King Jr.)

Quote"No opportunity should be missed to exploit through counterintelligence techniques the organizational and personal conflicts of the leaderships of the groups ... to insure [sic] the targeted group is disrupted, ridiculed, or discredited."

-FBI Director J. Egar Hoover

I have to imagine, if Dr. King had a computer, FBI director Hoover would have considered it a high priority target. Dr. King was also being monitored by the NSA and the CIA.

Hoover conducted all of this under the pretense that Dr. King was a communist operative. He also had the SCLC listed as a "black nationalist hate group."

Nearly ten years after his death the FBI admitted that, despite the extensive surveillance, they had found no evidence Dr. King was working with communists.

Personally, and Dr. King felt the same way it would seem, J. Edgar Hoover along with many in the FBI, NSA, CIA and local law enforcement, all of which were monitoring Dr. King, were probably just super racist people. As was quite common at the time.

Not that so much has changed.
Posted by jdrch
 - Yesterday at 00:49:37
This isn't new. Windows automatically backs up BitLocker keys to OneDrive unless you tell it not to, and OneDrive doesn't use client-side encryption. You can get around this by storing the key locally and backing it up to OneDrive using a client-side encryption client like Duplicati.
Posted by jdrch
 - Yesterday at 00:45:46
Quote from: Admiral Snackbar on January 24, 2026, 21:25:21Yikes. I'd hate to think of all the things the FBI could be doing with that information.

Quote"[Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is] the most notorious liar in the country"

-FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover

Quote"King, there is only one thing left for you to do. You know what it is."

-FBI Letter to Dr. King

The only thing you can do with a Bitlocker key is unlock a Bitlocker encrypted disk you already have physical access to. Which means that if the FBI are requesting your Bitlocker key, they've already seized your computer.
Posted by Admiral Snackbar
 - January 24, 2026, 21:25:21
Yikes. I'd hate to think of all the things the FBI could be doing with that information.

Quote"[Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is] the most notorious liar in the country"

-FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover

Quote"King, there is only one thing left for you to do. You know what it is."

-FBI Letter to Dr. King
Posted by Redaktion
 - January 24, 2026, 13:14:24
While Apple and Google stress that they cannot unlock customer devices, the situation is different with Windows encryption: Microsoft routinely hands over BitLocker keys from the cloud to law enforcement agencies.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cloud-risk-with-BitLocker-Microsoft-routinely-hands-over-BitLocker-keys-to-the-FBI.1211595.0.html