Quote from: Caribou on Yesterday at 11:31:06what are you talking about? 🤣

He's talking about the steam deck. For me what's worse isn't necessarily the CPU core, but the gfx architecture they're still using in some of these APUs.

Barcelo-R, an APU using vega (no longer even supported by AMD anymore), was still being sold in some regions up until last year. I think they've finally stopped now but that's pretty insane considering vega is like from 2017.. making it 8 years old now.

They're also still using RDNA2 in mendocino and dragon range APU's. RDNA2 is 5 years old now. These APUs are still being currently sold today. It would not surprise me if once AMD releases RDNA5 in a year or 2, they discontinue rdna2 support soon after (they already kind of have tbh, no official int8 fsr4 support on rdna2). That would suck for anyone who bought these APUs not too long ago.

Another problem, is the media decode / encode engine used in some of these SoCs. Lunar lake already was superior to AMD, and panther lake just widens the gap further here. Most AMD APU's are either using VCN 3.x or 4.0, which some would consider downright ancient in its support for formats and features. Don't know how Snapdragon X2 Elite compares, so maybe it would be interesting to see an article on the differences.

Quote from: MrPotatoHead on Yesterday at 11:08:40AMD is worse at this (Zen 2 is from late 2019/early 2020 and still here) but

what are you talking about? 🤣 you do know z2 is zen 4 and z2 extreme is zen 5 right?
 

And who kept Alder Lake-N around for three extra years, and Raptor Lake for two? AMD is worse at this (Zen 2 is from late 2019/early 2020 and still here) but Intel is not exactly innocent in all this. The only reason it looks worse now is that AMD doesn't have Zen 6 ready.