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[quote author=WasSchaustdort link=msg=692462 date=1764336368]
[quote author=Bennyg1 link=msg=692416 date=1764297308]
9% is indeed not that special when the deficit was 30%-40% in gaming at launch.
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Most of the criticism came from gaming-focused magazines and youtubers who never cared a flying furk about efficiency and praised previous Intel CPUs although they pulled 400W. As long as the gaming-benchmarks were the best they ignored any and every other issue of the CPU. And now the same magazines and youtubers jump on the AMD X3D-CPU train and praise it to heaven, regardless of microstuttering issues or heavy framedrops once the 3D Cache overflows ... pathetic, everything ...
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Posted by WasSchaustdort

- Today at 14:26:08

Quote from: Bennyg1 on Today at 03:35:089% is indeed not that special when the deficit was 30%-40% in gaming at launch.

There never was a deficit, except in elitist-gamer-circles. The AMD competitor for Arrow Lake was the 9950x CPU, and not AMD's X3D versions. And the first mentioned was beaten in efficiency and speed. And previous Raptor Lake were also beaten in efficiency also and the 5-10% lack in performance has meanwhile be solved.

Most of the criticism came from gaming-focused magazines and youtubers who never cared a flying furk about efficiency and praised previous Intel CPUs although they pulled 400W. As long as the gaming-benchmarks were the best they ignored any and every other issue of the CPU. And now the same magazines and youtubers jump on the AMD X3D-CPU train and praise it to heaven, regardless of microstuttering issues or heavy framedrops once the 3D Cache overflows ... pathetic, everything ...

Posted by Joe

- Today at 12:53:47

If Phoronix continues with positive Intel benchmarks, they may share Userbenchmark-s fate :D.
Arrow Lake was good choice already at launch for work related and other things, except gaming, when paired with very expensive GPU.

Posted by Bennyg1

- Today at 03:35:08

Quote from: Terror Byte on Today at 00:53:04So nothing at all for Windows, which continues to suck for performance. AMD Zen 5 is even much stronger on Linux.

Yes there are indeed no benchmarks for gains on Windows to report on because Phoronix do exclusively Linux testing ......

9% is indeed not that special when the deficit was 30%-40% in gaming at launch.
Windows version updates have improved results on both as well.

Arrowlake is more competitive on mobile since laptop GPUs constrain the gains (5090M ~= 5070Ti) and the 275HX is available in many more models for lower prices than 9955HX3D, additionally as soldered BGAs both are deadends for upgrades unlike LGA1851 vs AM5

Posted by Terror Byte

- Today at 00:53:04

So nothing at all for Windows, which continues to suck for performance. AMD Zen 5 is even much stronger on Linux.

Posted by Redaktion

- Yesterday at 23:32:06

Fresh benchmarks reveal that Intel's Core Ultra 200S CPUs have meaningfully improved since release, gaining performance while using less power. The results highlight how microcode, kernel, and compiler optimizations can breathe new life into existing silicon.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Arrow-Lake-gains-9-performance-in-a-year-while-reducing-power-consumption.1172633.0.html