Bought the reviewed laptop 6 months ago with the 65W GAN nano wall adapter.

In 6 months of use of heavy load editing videos and such I've multiple times measured almost 73W Total System Power according to HWinfo64, resulting constant battery drain from 100% charged to 95% when the laptop starts charging it again to full. This is while the laptop is plugged in.

That caused a 10% battery wear over 39 cycles while used almost always plugged in to the wall outlet.

Hello,

Could someone explain why the 3DMark result is only 32pt compared to the Lenovo T14 using a 880M show 73pt ? but if you look at the 3 lines of 3DMark 11 details then the P16s show better results than the T14.

Regards.

Quote from: Dodfr on July 02, 2025, 07:42:02For strangely when they put an Intel inside they use

Forget this text I started something and posted without deleting it.

But After asking my friend google it looks like the difference is because of soldered versus socket eletrical effect, looks like SODIMM have some kind of inductance or some other electrical behavior that do not allow much higher bandwith, I also see there are a few thinkpad models (Intel) that can go up to 6400 using CSODIMM instead of SODIMM (never heard of "C"SODIMM), but higher than that they are all soldered.

Quote from: Gabrielle on July 02, 2025, 06:40:01

Quote from: Dodfr on July 02, 2025, 00:10:35why they use 5600 memory instead 7500 ?

I've seen 6400, but which brand uses 7500? i'm just curious. They probably use 5600 for being a "business" laptop i imagine..

ThinkPad X13 use 8533
IdeaPad Pro 5 use 8000
Yoga 7 use 7500

For strangely when they put an Intel inside they use

Quote from: Dodfr on July 02, 2025, 00:10:35why they use 5600 memory instead 7500 ?

I've seen 6400, but which brand uses 7500? i'm just curious. They probably use 5600 for being a "business" laptop i imagine..

Hello,

I am wondering why they use 5600 memory instead 7500 ? they are killing the iGPU performances

Quote from: moe69230 on June 26, 2025, 17:22:54Which serie of Thinkpads was it? T/P/L ?

T Series and it's not only me it's colleagues as well. ThinkPads are not what they once were.

Quote from: Most milked brand on June 26, 2025, 11:19:09

Quote from: moe69230 on June 25, 2025, 22:05:29However, if it's for business use, with transport every morning and evening or even several times a day (for professional meetings for instance), your IdeaPad or Yoga won't last long even with sleeve case + a backpack.

Completely false. I have an IdeaPad 5 Pro, use it every day, mobile, I bike to work, travel internationally, even dropped it, zero issues and the build is better than plastic ThinkPads since it's aluminum.
On my ThinkPad the plastic frame cracked, TouchPad failed and screen almost came off.. it's cheap plastic after all.

Quote from: moe69230 on June 25, 2025, 22:05:29They are just not as robust, as durable (for instance memory not upgradeable), lack of a Kensington lock slot, and don't offer as many connectivity options (ethernet).

Memory has nothing to do with durability and even cheap IdeaPads / Yogas can be had with 32GB, why would you need more?
Who uses Kensington anymore or ethernet anymore in the office? Nobody but everyone has docking stations or KVM that supports this or simply buy USB-C ethernet if you really occasionally require it.


You simply fell for brand marketing.

For the problems we got, it was really more from expérience than marketing as I explained (based on more than two dozen of laptops).

If your are happy with your IdeaPad 5 pro, I am happy for you. Enjoy it.
On my side, I am happy to equip my team with discounted P14s with 3 years warranty + damage protection included for not more than an IdeaPad 5 pro with my business account.

Your are mentionning problems on one Thinkpad.
Which serie of Thinkpads was it? T/P/L ?

Quote from: moe69230 on June 25, 2025, 22:05:29However, if it's for business use, with transport every morning and evening or even several times a day (for professional meetings for instance), your IdeaPad or Yoga won't last long even with sleeve case + a backpack.

Completely false. I have an IdeaPad 5 Pro, use it every day, mobile, I bike to work, travel internationally, even dropped it, zero issues and the build is better than plastic ThinkPads since it's aluminum.
On my ThinkPad the plastic frame cracked, TouchPad failed and screen almost came off.. it's cheap plastic after all.

Quote from: moe69230 on June 25, 2025, 22:05:29They are just not as robust, as durable (for instance memory not upgradeable), lack of a Kensington lock slot, and don't offer as many connectivity options (ethernet).

Memory has nothing to do with durability and even cheap IdeaPads / Yogas can be had with 32GB, why would you need more?
Who uses Kensington anymore or ethernet anymore in the office? Nobody but everyone has docking stations or KVM that supports this or simply buy USB-C ethernet if you really occasionally require it.


You simply fell for brand marketing.

Quote from: Most milked brand on June 25, 2025, 18:56:30Today's Thinkpads are complete garbage, simple as. Overpriced brand reputation milking mediocre garbage.
Just buy an IdeaPad or Yoga, much better value and similar if not better package or forgo Lenovo entirely.

If you don't need to carry your laptop around often, it can do the job.

However, if it's for business use, with transport every morning and evening or even several times a day (for professional meetings for instance), your IdeaPad or Yoga won't last long even with sleeve case + a backpack.

I experienced this when we equipped our team with Yogas for business use at the beginning.
Between motherboards that stopped working, broken hinges, and even screens in some cases, the Yoga and Ideapad series are simply not designed for the same purpose as the ThinkPad line is.
They are just not as robust, as durable (for instance memory not upgradeable), lack of a Kensington lock slot, and don't offer as many connectivity options (ethernet).

In conclusion, you can not compare these different lines of products.
I started to replace failing Yogas by Thinkpads.

About prices, if you do not need the brand new version, there are often discounts.
For instance on P14s AMD gen 5 since November which not more expensive than a Yoga with a 3 years warranty included.

Today's Thinkpads are complete garbage, simple as. Overpriced brand reputation milking mediocre garbage.
Just buy an IdeaPad or Yoga, much better value and similar if not better package or forgo Lenovo entirely.

Quote from: Benjamin Herzig on June 25, 2025, 17:47:57As stated in the review, the CPU Power Limit 1 for sustained performance for the P14s Gen 6 AMD is 36 W. 29 W is just the CPU consumption when the iGPU is stressed as well.

I know that but I said the consumption could be easier 36W (thanks to UXTU) with both CPU and GPU load. I managed to deal with 30W on my T14s Gen 6 instead of the (default) 22W limit while using both CPu and GPU intensively. I can prove it easily. The only thing is to "break" the too low pre-programmed STAPM limit by Lenovo. I dit it.

As stated in the review, the CPU Power Limit 1 for sustained performance for the P14s Gen 6 AMD is 36 W. 29 W is just the CPU consumption when the iGPU is stressed as well.

As I already in a previous topic here that P14s Gen 6 with Ryzen AI HX370 is limited by the 65W power supply. Damn it. I was right ;-). On Lenovo website there is no option for a 100W power supply (confirmed by Lenovo on chat) like for the P16s Gen 4. Electrically they should have the same USB-C (PD3.1) port which allows 5A under 20V (= 100W). If so, and if P14s Gen 6 handles that power, it means that you have to buy the 100W power supply separately.

On my T14s Gen 6, 100W power supply is well recognized by Lenovo Commercial Vantage but I don't know the true amount of power provided. I never reached a total of 67W by stressing both CPU and GPU (at a sustained 30W load thanks to UXTU software, much over the default and ridiculous 22W sustained mode). Higher is almost impossible because of temperatures above 100°C. Here on the P14s Gen 6, the max power sustained mode under stress seems to be 29W. In my opinion, it could be higher (~35-37W) by using UXTU.

Quote from: Dodobird on June 22, 2025, 04:52:52Wondering how bad the coil noise is...

see www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1ldtmyw/p14s_gen_6_amd_coil_whine_noise

(sorry, I can't post links)