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Posted by Gabrielle
 - July 02, 2025, 11:27:27
Quote from: A on July 01, 2025, 18:20:23Not really, the focus is mostly of AVIF now which is somewhat the successor to webp

But..AVIF cannot losslessly transcode JPEG files like JPEG XL can. JPEG XL has a unique feature that allows it to recompress existing JPEG files losslessly, effectively creating a smaller JPEG XL file without any loss of image data. AVIF, on the other hand, requires decoding the JPEG to pixels and then re-encoding, which is a lossy process.

And Lossless AVIF is just really quite bad. Notice that how for photographic content, it is barely better than PNG, and for non-photographic content, it is far worse than PNG...

I'm just sad...😢
Posted by A
 - July 01, 2025, 18:20:23
Quote from: Gabrielle on July 01, 2025, 06:06:36
Quote from: A on July 01, 2025, 04:37:38You mean the one google added to chrome(behind flags) then removed?


exactly 🤣 so much push for their webp! well it didnt make it to firefox (although can be enabled  with flag!)...too bad..

Not really, the focus is mostly of AVIF now which is somewhat the successor to webp

Quote from: Ahab on July 01, 2025, 12:31:39Some of us would consider supporting EXIF data a massive downgrade.

Explain.

PNG has supported EXIF and other metadata formats via chunks for years. It just wasn't official.

But there is no "downgrade", nothing really changed.
Posted by Ahab
 - July 01, 2025, 12:31:39
Some of us would consider supporting EXIF data a massive downgrade.
Posted by TruthIsThere
 - July 01, 2025, 08:34:12
Quote from: Gabrielle on July 01, 2025, 00:45:54KODI supports PNG and WebP, it even supports the dead MNG format. If you mean for posters, you need to use .apng format.

As for limit in time, I think there was some buffer overflow issues with too many animated stuff.

PS KODI is open source, anything you want to change feel free to

That's like saying... "hey, that's your vehicle... 'feel free' to task yourself of all PM services & future repairs." 😏

Nah. No thank you. There are much better/STABLE media centers, today that works, than half-butt KODI... and the rude wannabe elite devs/mods there that snap on any user at the simplest discussion?! Oh... heck no! IMO, KODI (XBMC) died with the sunset of the OG Xbox.
Posted by Gabrielle
 - July 01, 2025, 06:06:36
Quote from: A on July 01, 2025, 04:37:38You mean the one google added to chrome(behind flags) then removed?


exactly 🤣 so much push for their webp! well it didnt make it to firefox (although can be enabled  with flag!)...too bad..
Posted by A
 - July 01, 2025, 04:37:38
Quote from: Gabrielle on July 01, 2025, 00:45:54Please mention JPEG XL too! It's not dead! (Yet)
Still hoping royalty-free jxl to thrive after multiple years...

You mean the one google added to chrome(behind flags) then removed?


Quote from: TruthIsThere on July 01, 2025, 01:30:54"Version 3 introduces a number of changes that make PNG significantly more attractive for modern use"

"Animated PNGs (also called APNGs) have existed for years and were originally developed by Mozilla. But with PNG Version 3, they are now officially part of the W3C standard and are therefore likely to be supported by far more software in the future"

Yeah, one would think, right... but trying explaining that to many software devs today e.g. KODI, ect. After all of these years, devs like KODI still refuses to full support modern formats like PNG, WebP, refuses to support gifs that's longer than 2-seconds, ect. for animated Posters or animated Fanarts, SMH!

KODI supports PNG and WebP, it even supports the dead MNG format. If you mean for posters, you need to use .apng format.

As for limit in time, I think there was some buffer overflow issues with too many animated stuff.

PS KODI is open source, anything you want to change feel free to
Posted by TruthIsThere
 - July 01, 2025, 01:30:54
"Version 3 introduces a number of changes that make PNG significantly more attractive for modern use"

"Animated PNGs (also called APNGs) have existed for years and were originally developed by Mozilla. But with PNG Version 3, they are now officially part of the W3C standard and are therefore likely to be supported by far more software in the future"

Yeah, one would think, right... but trying explaining that to many software devs today e.g. KODI, ect. After all of these years, devs like KODI still refuses to full support modern formats like PNG, WebP, refuses to support gifs that's longer than 2-seconds, ect. for animated Posters or animated Fanarts, SMH!
Posted by Gabrielle
 - July 01, 2025, 00:45:54
Please mention JPEG XL too! It's not dead! (Yet)
Still hoping royalty-free jxl to thrive after multiple years...
Posted by Redaktion
 - June 30, 2025, 22:50:34
After more than 20 years, the PNG file format is receiving a comprehensive and long-overdue update, as formats like JPEG, AVIF and WebP have been offering more efficient compression and modern features. PNG Version 3 not only supports HDR but also animations.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/PNG-3-is-here-and-takes-on-JPEG-with-HDR-and-animations.1047951.0.html