Quote from: Gallo123 on Today at 01:42:44The bottom line is that not all 200x worth of fires were catastrophic, nor does it matter if they started the fires. What matters is when an EV that catches fire it becomes catastrophic at sea...'

These are the most asinine idiotic things written .... Show everyone a non-catastrophic car fire where the car was fine and not a total loss. Further why is a car fire at sea more catastrophic than on land?

Quote from: A on Today at 04:21:13All fires at sea are difficult and often time lead to total loss. ICE cars catching on fire and bringing down the ship isn't uncommon.

Really????? Is this a religious kind of matter? You really believe it is possible for an ICE vehicle to spontaneously catch fire while stopped and parked with residual fuel in the tank???

Quote from: zhud on Today at 00:16:49Once the fire spreads to an EV, it cannot be stopped.

It can.

Quote from: Gallo123 on Today at 01:42:44What matters is when an EV that catches fire it becomes catastrophic at sea which leads to total losses.

All fires at sea are difficult and often time lead to total loss. ICE cars catching on fire and bringing down the ship isn't uncommon.

Quote from: ArsLoginName on Today at 01:19:57They should be shipped with only 5-10% of full charge. Would still provide a range of 10's of miles to get them loaded on a ship, driven off a ship and on to a car carrier for delivery to a dealership. Very hard to have a thermal runaway when there is only 1/20-1/10th of the energy density.

Still doesn't detract from my previous post of 200x more regular ICE car fires per year than these EVs on fire on ships while being transported.

Not logistically possible to leave an EV at 5-10% charge. A car sits for over a month before they are shipped. It also takes another month to travel by sea. And then another month at port/storage towards delivery. Leaving a brand new EV discharged damages the cells, read up on the Cybertrucks being defective because they took so long to sell.

Comparing standard car fires to fires at sea is just incredible stupid on so many levels. You would have to be emotionally obsessed with EVs to convince yourself it's correct. 200x fires occur because there 200x++ conventional vehicles on the road let alone the range of age and types. The bottom line is that not all 200x worth of fires were catastrophic, nor does it matter if they started the fires. What matters is when an EV that catches fire it becomes catastrophic at sea which leads to total losses.

They should be shipped with only 5-10% of full charge. Would still provide a range of 10's of miles to get them loaded on a ship, driven off a ship and on to a car carrier for delivery to a dealership. Very hard to have a thermal runaway when there is only 1/20-1/10th of the energy density.

Still doesn't detract from my previous post of 200x more regular ICE car fires per year than these EVs on fire on ships while being transported.

Once the fire spreads to an EV, it cannot be stopped.

Let's put this in context....

First off title is misleading as should be 'Ship carrying EVs that caught fire earlier this month finally sinks'.

Next, since these cars were headed for Mexico and maybe some in US, a quick Google search for 'number of car fires in the US and Mexico between March 2022 and June 2025' gives over 432,000 in JUST 2022 and 2023 alone with statistics for 2024 and into half of 2025 not available but it does say an annual average of about 180,000 per year - which apparently makes 2022 and 2023 statistical anomalies. But this suggests over 610,000 through the end of 2024.

So over 200x more fires than these EVs sinking at sea as the sensationalized author wants us to panic over.

Quote from: A on Yesterday at 21:47:45To be fair, in neither the Felicity Ace case nor the Fremantle Highway case, there has been 0 evidence that the cause was an EV. It wasn't the first time an ICE car caught on fire and an EV was blamed.

Lol? How gullible can some1 be...

To be fair, in neither the Felicity Ace case nor the Fremantle Highway case, there has been 0 evidence that the cause was an EV. It wasn't the first time an ICE car caught on fire and an EV was blamed.