Quote from: Uberfish on May 29, 2025, 17:55:52The question isn't how safe are these, it's when will the first injury/death be?

Cameras and LIDAR make a double redundant system. They fill in for the limitations of the other technology. What Musk is trying to do is use the bare minimum to cut costs. This is purely a business decision, and has nothing to do with safety. Rain, sun glare, low visibility etc. All render camera based FSD totally useless and there's nothing that can be done to get around it without adding radar or LIDAR into the mix.

We've all seen the videos where tesla's FSD can't see and react to unlit objects in the roads, and killed a family man by driving him into a crashed truck.

Thanks for your misinformation and/or outdated stories.

I drive every single day in NYC on my new Model Y. It handles rain, at night, on roads with aggressive drivers, pedestrians, bikes, triple parked cars, you name it. Stop believing the hatestream media and wake up. This tech is life saving.

The question isn't how safe are these, it's when will the first injury/death be?

Cameras and LIDAR make a double redundant system. They fill in for the limitations of the other technology. What Musk is trying to do is use the bare minimum to cut costs. This is purely a business decision, and has nothing to do with safety. Rain, sun glare, low visibility etc. All render camera based FSD totally useless and there's nothing that can be done to get around it without adding radar or LIDAR into the mix.

We've all seen the videos where tesla's FSD can't see and react to unlit objects in the roads, and killed a family man by driving him into a crashed truck.

Quote from: muskdestroys on May 22, 2025, 01:55:51I will NEVER use this due to DonElon fascism, lack of safety vs Waymo, and billionaires wanting to be trillionaires on our backs like tax loan deficits to THEM and Federal purchases of DonElon crap like $400 million contract for armored Tesla vehicles.

Billionaires are not your friend.

Get your facts straight. This deal was done by the Biden administration before Trump became president.

Do your research dont parrot the left media. You are on the wrong side of history.

No they're not "premapping" the area like waymo, you made that part up.  These changes are likely conditions from regulators rather than teslas goal

I will NEVER use this due to DonElon fascism, lack of safety vs Waymo, and billionaires wanting to be trillionaires on our backs like tax loan deficits to THEM and Federal purchases of DonElon crap like $400 million contract for armored Tesla vehicles.

Billionaires are not your friend.